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By now, synthetic urine is no secret to anybody. Cops, military and most employment drug testing companies can detect many types of synthetic urine. Mechanically, the whizzinator design is awesome. The piss comes out at a good temp, and its not hard to conceal, but still, success is a crap shoot. In swims experience with synthetic urine, the actual taking of the test went well. The piss came out about 97 degrees and looked fine and no one suspected anything. Nonetheless, the fake was detected and swim remained unemployed. By now synthetic urine is really only good for at home drug tests. Swim is not the only person who had bad luck with that shit either. Maybe he'll keep some clean piss in his freezer and put that in a whizzinator type device.
Swim has had much success with using synth PP. Worked just fine for swim. And since pre-employment drug screens are not visually monitored, failing is virtually impossible. In fact, my kitty told me that she thought she saw a policy or something of the sort implying a money-back guarantee if swiy does end up failing the test on the back of the synth urine box.
The thing that swiy's gotta watch out for is maintaining the right temperature (they won't accept the pee sample if it doesn't read a certain temperature). Swim knows this from experience. She once assumed that keeping the synth urine in her undergarments prior to taking the test would keep the p.p. nice n warm, warm enough to read right. But, swim was WRONG. The technician informed swim that she must be dead if her p.p. is of that low of temp. Whoops!!
The synthetic urine that my cat used came with a temp strip on it. You could put the container in the microwave for 10 seconds then strap the included hand warmer on with a rubber band and was good to go with 92-98 degree urine for up to 6 hours according to the box.
swim think's it is best to get urine from a non useing friend. heat it up by placing in warm water 15 min's before test. if swiy is meant to have drugs in there system like methadone if on a mmt add a few small drops so it shows up. has always worked for them.
swim allways used normal tap water with one good spurt of piss in it it allways passed the ph screen sence both piss and water have a slightlly acidic to neutral ph of 6-7.5 and in his experience passed the gas chromatogram in the lab as well
on another note the "urine" temperature cant be too high either swim suffered nearlly boiling hot water pressed tightlly agianst his scrotum for half an hour only 2 take the test and find that it was one degree too hot
swim can understand people trying to use these methods if drug test's are part of employment. but for those on drug treatment programs they don't understand. as if they don't want to stop using then they should stop treatment and alow someone else their place. or if the do want to stop they should be up front and admit they have used so they can get more help with problem.
When Cowboy was in jail, the common practice was to get a non-using friend to fill the fingers of a plastic kitchen gloves with his clean piss, then the person being tested would save it in his cell until he needed it. Always worked fine...
Swiadzket is forgetting about people who are in treatment as punishment. Not everyone in treatment wants to be there, in a friend's expierience. A lot of people get sent to rehab for drug related offenses. They don't choose to be there for many people it's treatment or jail. A certain someone caught a case for posession and paraphinalia of pot. He got put on random drugs screens and had to jump through all kinds of hoops, he has untreated anxiety and pot really helps him. during rehab he was trying to stay off of pot and ended up messing with all kinds of benzo's, opiates and booze just trying to not lose his mind...forced rehab isn't gonna help anyone.
the possible ways to determine if it is fake or not..
When I worked in a criminal drug testing laboratory the only testing methods we had to ensure the validity of a urine sample was specific gravity and creatinine levels. Synthetic urine is typically designed to account for both of these tests, though I don't know anything about specific products.
If there are other ways of detecting an invalid urine sample, I would definitely like to know about them. I'm sure a lot of other members would be appreciative of such information as well.