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Old 02-05-2009, 05:58
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synthetic urine is obsolete

By now, synthetic urine is no secret to anybody. Cops, military and most employment drug testing companies can detect many types of synthetic urine. Mechanically, the whizzinator design is awesome. The piss comes out at a good temp, and its not hard to conceal, but still, success is a crap shoot. In swims experience with synthetic urine, the actual taking of the test went well. The piss came out about 97 degrees and looked fine and no one suspected anything. Nonetheless, the fake was detected and swim remained unemployed. By now synthetic urine is really only good for at home drug tests. Swim is not the only person who had bad luck with that shit either. Maybe he'll keep some clean piss in his freezer and put that in a whizzinator type device.

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Old 23-10-2009, 01:21
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Re: synthetic urine is obsolete

I'm curious to know how it is detected. I was under the impression that it was chemically identical to real urine. Though it doesn't smell like piss I doubt any lab tech is going to smell it.

My cat has had no issues with synthetic urine for employment drug tests
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Old 30-11-2009, 10:57
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Re: synthetic urine is obsolete

Swim has had much success with using synth PP. Worked just fine for swim. And since pre-employment drug screens are not visually monitored, failing is virtually impossible. In fact, my kitty told me that she thought she saw a policy or something of the sort implying a money-back guarantee if swiy does end up failing the test on the back of the synth urine box.
The thing that swiy's gotta watch out for is maintaining the right temperature (they won't accept the pee sample if it doesn't read a certain temperature). Swim knows this from experience. She once assumed that keeping the synth urine in her undergarments prior to taking the test would keep the p.p. nice n warm, warm enough to read right. But, swim was WRONG. The technician informed swim that she must be dead if her p.p. is of that low of temp. Whoops!!
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Old 01-12-2009, 18:35
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Re: synthetic urine is obsolete

The synthetic urine that my cat used came with a temp strip on it. You could put the container in the microwave for 10 seconds then strap the included hand warmer on with a rubber band and was good to go with 92-98 degree urine for up to 6 hours according to the box.
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Old 02-12-2009, 19:45
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Re: synthetic urine is obsolete

swim think's it is best to get urine from a non useing friend. heat it up by placing in warm water 15 min's before test. if swiy is meant to have drugs in there system like methadone if on a mmt add a few small drops so it shows up. has always worked for them.
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Old 02-12-2009, 23:48
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Re: synthetic urine is obsolete

swim allways used normal tap water with one good spurt of piss in it it allways passed the ph screen sence both piss and water have a slightlly acidic to neutral ph of 6-7.5 and in his experience passed the gas chromatogram in the lab as well

on another note the "urine" temperature cant be too high either swim suffered nearlly boiling hot water pressed tightlly agianst his scrotum for half an hour only 2 take the test and find that it was one degree too hot
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Old 23-01-2010, 07:19
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Re: synthetic urine is obsolete

my friend swim used the synthetic urine last week for an outpatient rehab ua. worked perfectly. passed with flying colors.
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Old 04-02-2010, 23:32
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Re: synthetic urine is obsolete

swim can understand people trying to use these methods if drug test's are part of employment. but for those on drug treatment programs they don't understand. as if they don't want to stop using then they should stop treatment and alow someone else their place. or if the do want to stop they should be up front and admit they have used so they can get more help with problem.
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Old 04-02-2010, 23:47
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Re: synthetic urine is obsolete

When Cowboy was in jail, the common practice was to get a non-using friend to fill the fingers of a plastic kitchen gloves with his clean piss, then the person being tested would save it in his cell until he needed it. Always worked fine...
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Old 11-01-2011, 20:22
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Re: synthetic urine is obsolete

Swiadzket is forgetting about people who are in treatment as punishment. Not everyone in treatment wants to be there, in a friend's expierience. A lot of people get sent to rehab for drug related offenses. They don't choose to be there for many people it's treatment or jail. A certain someone caught a case for posession and paraphinalia of pot. He got put on random drugs screens and had to jump through all kinds of hoops, he has untreated anxiety and pot really helps him. during rehab he was trying to stay off of pot and ended up messing with all kinds of benzo's, opiates and booze just trying to not lose his mind...forced rehab isn't gonna help anyone.
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Old 14-01-2011, 03:19
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Re: synthetic urine is obsolete

this is no surprise to my parakeet, he thought this would have happened sooner due to the specific nature of human urine and the possible ways to determine if it is fake or not..
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Re: synthetic urine is obsolete

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the possible ways to determine if it is fake or not..
Like what?

When I worked in a criminal drug testing laboratory the only testing methods we had to ensure the validity of a urine sample was specific gravity and creatinine levels. Synthetic urine is typically designed to account for both of these tests, though I don't know anything about specific products.

If there are other ways of detecting an invalid urine sample, I would definitely like to know about them. I'm sure a lot of other members would be appreciative of such information as well.

More information can be found in Drug Testing - A Comprehensive Guide.
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Old 16-07-2015, 06:32
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Re: synthetic urine is obsolete

So my boyfriend is on felony probation for trafficking ( he does not sell drugs he was bribed to do a "friend" a favor) possesion, which is an F5, and attempted tampering with evidence, an F4. He was caught using a whizzinater today for a drug test his PO ordered. We are supposed to get married in 9 days. What are the odds that he won't be in jail for trying to pull this stunt? He had some work done on his teeth last week and is in some serious pain. The pain became so unbearable that he relapsed. He was afraid to tell his PO about the Vicodin because he is on suboxone and his po and suboxone dr keep each other updated on progress. His dr will probably kick him out of the suboxone program because they have a 0 tolerance policy. I'm so mad at my boyfriend for relapsing in the first place but now I worry about what I'm going to do without him, how will I pay my bills (obviously I'd have to get a job) where will I live, my whole life is being turned upside down because he relapsed. I won't leave him. He didn't leave me when I relapsed 6 months ago. I feel selfish to only think about me but I'm very scared. This is the first probation violation. He just started a really good job and things were finally looking up. Will somebody please tell me what to expect!?!?! Any input is appreciated

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Oh yea, I wanted to mention the reason he got caught was because the whissinater was "too white" my boyfriend is white as can be. I don't get it

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Old 16-07-2015, 12:54
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Re: synthetic urine is obsolete

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If there are other ways of detecting an invalid urine sample, I would definitely like to know about them. I'm sure a lot of other members would be appreciative
Synthetic urine does not contain the biological markers that natural human urine does. To my knowledge confirming human biological markers has not been incorporated into specimen validation testing. But I would not be surprised if some labs my be preforming this or similar validation testing unannounced
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Old 17-07-2015, 06:42
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Re: synthetic urine is obsolete

afoaf used quickfix plus and got his promotion with cannabis in his system, this was maybe 3 months ago max, it was difficult getting the temp perfect even with the temp strip but he did it even tho it was intended to get him fired
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Re: synthetic urine is obsolete

sorry if off topic but what kind of draconian suboxone program has a 0 tolerance of relapse, ..unless its court mandated.
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Re: synthetic urine is obsolete

I should be more specific. The suboxone Dr and my fiancés probation officer are in constant contact so if he screws up, he goes to jail weather he screws up his suboxone or probation they have it linked together in the court system which I think is bs. Hippa laws should apply bit they don't if the courts have anything to do with it. So yea. My fiancé lied to the sub dr and his PO about having the Vicodin, for fear of getting caught and used the wizzinater which has worked in a pinch several times before. The tester caught him said that his "penis" looked too white. My fiancé is Caucasian and as white as can be. So now he's in jail for trying to defraud a drug test. This is his first ever probation violation. He had just started a really good new job about 2 weeks ago. He has his court date set for Friday. Is there any hope that they will release him for our wedding Saturday? I'm scared and never been through anything like this. Again any input is appreciated. Oh yea, I thought I should add, the response about the markers with the synthetic urine do not apply. He peed in a steril bottle while he was clean right before he popped the Vicodin so the piss he was using was really his piss, with all his meds and suboxone in it.

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