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I'm convinced blue lotus is placebo. I have used the flower petals as a tea, the stamens steeped in wine for a week, and a 25x extract, all in doses WAY above what the websites recommended, and didn't feel a thing.
Ive used a very potent blue lotus extract aswell as brewing teas... The stuff is hardly worth it i catch more of a buzz from shisha. . . the extract was quite expensive i ended up putting half of it which was supposidly very strong in tea resulting in minimal effects. . . also tried smoking an extract . . tasted bad and no effect
The basics are basically no lilly or lotus is psychoactive in its dried form at a reasonable dose. i've tried blue lilly of the nile, white, pink and blue lotus (real blue lotus)from multiple vendors and tried consuming them in every way. , I ate a gram of co2 extract (the alkaloids from ounces of lotus), nothing, I've eaten very high doses of the resinous extracts of lilly (w/ and w/ out alcohol)from multiple vendors, still nothing, I madea lotus and lilly resinwith a cold everclear extract which took almost two months, dissolved in alcohol withno effects.I tried eating an ounce of raw petals on more than one occasion to try both the lotusand thelilly, which was extrordinarily disgusting (used honey to help) but still absolutely no effect. I've smoked every kind of petal and they do nothing but burn your throat, all though if you roll your own cigs i was told the blue lilly (not the lotus though)mixed good with tobacco and tasted pretty good, but on its own everyone agreed it burns your throat too much and does nothing. I smoked different kinds of extracts and though they didn't taste bad, none of them burned properly at all, and ofcourse they didn't do anything. If this plant is psychoactive it is only at extremely high doses, or perhaps only when its fresh. Maybe the main alkaloid is very unstable and degrades really fast. Besides logically since it is an opiate it would be a much bigger deal if it really worked and would be more popular and talked about in forums and on drug sites. But even though its been around for a long time there is no hype about itbecause its completely bunkmeister. Im going to ask Erowid if they will label this plant as placebo so no one makes my mistake again and wastes time and money looking for a real medicine and it turns out to be a crappy smoke admixture.
It seems to me that Blue Lotus, as some(many) other legal herbs, doesn't seem to be working for everyone. 'Even' Salvia doesn't work for everyone despite the fact that it's one of the strongest (and strangest) psychedelics known to man.
Swim's been planning to order some Lily and some other legal stuff one of these days. Kanna sounds also quite nice and Ibogaine. The site Swims ordering seems really trustworthy and good. Below every substance there are listed countrys the product can't be send to and the lists seem quite covering. Swims a bit spectig, though, if the Ibogaine is legal where Swim lives since it's after all quite strong psychedelic. Wild lettuce also seems quite interesting. Hope they do their tricks. Amanitas didn't work for swim.
SWIM and SO tried Blue Lotus 25:1 standardized extract. SWIM hates to smoke, SO loves to smoke. SWIM made tea from .5 gram extract, vanilla and fresh grated ginger. Not bad to drink, house smelled wonderful. SWIM felt absolutely nothing. SO tried 200mg smoked, and now claims it is his preferred "mellow" smoke.
2 test monkeys in the same cage, similar tastes, yet one felt nothing and the lther loved it enough to buy more.
I havent yet tried Blue Lotus but in my knowledge isnt SWIM soppouse to soak some leaves in wine (or any other alcohol i guess) for a couple of days and then drink that (with the petels not removing them) WHILE and notice the enfasis in WHILE your smoking it? Nobody here has mentioned that yet, has anybody tryed it?
SWIY doesnt have to do both
SWIY should be able to smoke it an be just fine
but if SWIY doesnt like smoking things you can make a tea or add to wine
Either or doesnt matter but SWIM prefers kicking back with a lot
on a day with nothing particular to do and just smoke
its cheap enough to consistantly smoke all day
but wiether or not your lungs can handle it is diffrent i guess
SWIMs friends couldnt handle it while SWIM could
SWIM has an indian tomahawk / pipe with a HUGE bowl
that he likes to take to the park on a nice day with an Oz. of lotus
kick back on a hill, relax, smoke smoke smoke, and enjoy life
So what would the consensus be to do with all these little 1gm black-buttons of blue lotus resin that Bongo has littering his kitchen spice-cabinet? Smoke it? Brew it? Feed the garbage-disposal with it?
Blue lotus has SEDATIVE properties not so much psychoactive, drinking just about any amount of tea gives me the same effects. Smoking blue lotus does very little to nothing. Most times after a night of drinking SWIM and friends steep enough tea for everyone put SWIM into a restful sleep waking up refreshed the next morning.
Also something with dreams may also play a factor but then again I take a 50mg 5-HTP 10-15mins before sleeping.
Swim puts them in some low quality red wine. -Please use cheap red wine, it will taste like shit afterwards- (Mostly around 7 grams) And then put the bottle in the refridgerator for a couple of days -mostly 3-. Swim doesn't understand the opium connection. It is just a hypnotic with a dreamlike quality. A nice sleep aid swim would say. Nothing to strong. It is a nice sedative plant. However a friend of swim didn't feel it, so it differs from people to people. The tea is less effective than the wine. The tea does taste better than the wine. Swim thinks he tries vodka the next time with a higher amount of the flowers, the next time he buys a batch. Smoking swim never tried.
Some batches swim had, weren't as effective. At those times he had to put double the dose in the wine, which didn't make the taste better. It is great to add to your kratom then the taste actually improves.