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Old 21-07-2009, 18:56
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IV Adderall or Amphetamine base

Hello,

SWIM has been interested in IV adminsitration of a drugs for a while because of better efficiency and more potent effects. However, none of his friends have tried or are interested in injection due to purity concerns, not liking needles, et cetera.

SWIM has these questions:

1. SWIM is in the UK. Where can SWIM obtain needles? Would he be able to purchase them from a pharmacy?

2. As SWIM knows no one with experience of injection, he is nervous about performing it himself the first time. Are there any good step-by-step tutorials, maybe even a video, on this?

3. Is Adderall a good choice for injection? SWIM knows how to prepare an XR pill for insufflation, but is not sure if the fillers etc. would be dangerous for IV? If this is the case, would street amphetamine be a good choice for a first timer?

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Old 21-07-2009, 21:43
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Re: IV Adderall or Amphetamine base

Pills are only safer then their street counterparts to the extent that you know exactly what's in them, and check if there's anything harmful you're injecting, and the fact that they're probably more sanitary.

If you shoot up some random pill without checking the contents, you're probably gambling as much as shooting up random heroin. Binders/fillers can easily cause a clot, more so then the street drugs which are designed for injecting.
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Old 23-07-2009, 20:11
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Re: IV Adderall or Amphetamine base

If SWIM was going the way of an Adderall pill, it would be one that he obtained via prescription. SWIM was wondering if an Adderall pill would have fillers/binders in it that would be bad IV administration, and if street amphetamine would be any more/less harmful than this. Thanks,
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Re: IV Adderall or Amphetamine base

SWIM has tried to IV Adderall and had little success. SWIM still feels that oral administration is far better due to bio availability %'s.
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Re: IV Adderall or Amphetamine base

i v injection of adderal is a waste, it's a pain in the ass, i heard it doesn't get you any higher , and if it did it wouldn't last long. pills are a pain in the ass to shoot and no benefit . at least that's what i read somewhere.... i don't understand the addiction of iv use . unless it is an injectable form already. still then just muscle it, it won't last as long as ingested in pill form though....
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Old 30-08-2009, 08:45
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Re: IV Adderall or Amphetamine base

SWIM's buddy has punched 4 of the 84's (5mg IR) and enjoyed it quite thoroughly. He did mention that there was no rush of any kind to mention but did feel quite great for a good while. Still though, SWIM would recommend parachuting them, as the bio availability via oral administration is quite high.
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Old 02-09-2009, 23:13
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Re: IV Adderall or Amphetamine base

IV'ing extended release adderall is very dangerous, and doesn't even work that well. I have before, and IMO you would probally not be able to figure out how to filter it properly, as it was very difficult, even for me.

If you do somehow suck up an adderall er, the solution is opaque, and when I IV'd it , even though I KNOW I didn't miss, my arm got a big red VERY sore area around the area where i shot...

The rush wasn't anything much either. More "whoa, i'm stimulated". If you crush the pills, the time release isn't defeated, it can only be defeated by a high acidity environment like your stomach.So you only get the instant release portion into the shot, which is half I believe. So a 30mg pills turns into (if you're lucky) 15 mgs.

The Adderall IR tablets work well though. Pretty easy to shoot and the solution is clear orange colored. Not much of a rush, but an effect.

Don't waste your time. I would recommend booty bumping it , the BA is around 95% vs 100%.

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Old 11-11-2009, 18:26
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Re: IV Adderall or Amphetamine base

SWIM don't know anyone who has tried to IV XR adderall. SWIM would discourage using extended release as there are geling agents in the pills.

SWIM has used Amphetamine salts (dextro amphetamine, amphetamine salts) the generic of Adderall IV. SWIM usually crushed 40mg of pills, then added only enough water so that the crushed pills were somewhat desolved - then seperated the solution from the remaining substance and drew the solution into the syringe through a q-tip, and injected the solution with a small gauge needle into SWIM's right arm in the vein at the inside crease of the elbow (without a tournequette).

SWIM suggests not trying to fully desolve the pills as SWIY will be desolving the fillers along with the pill.

SWIM wants you to realize that amphetamines desolve in water before the filler/cut desolves. Also, SWIY cannot "cook" the solution, as with H use, because amphetamines in water will evaporate way before the water boils. Heating the water will also allow more of the filler to desolve with the pills. SWIY have to be very sanitary.

Without a pure amphetamine/dextroamphetamine pill (which I am unaware of in the human pharmaceutical market, however there are veterinary uses for pure amphetamines), there is no way to know what kind of dosage SWIY will be taking.

SWIM is also concerned about the coloring of the pills. The color of the water after preperation will be the original color of the pill. The solution, when prepaired correctly will taste bitter and feel thick, an indication that there is a concentration of amphetamines in the water.
SWIM doesn't know, however, what negative effects the coloration in the pill would have in an IV situation.

SWIM thinks that while one does get higher on IV adderall, the onset of amphetamine psycosis is instant, even when fully rested.

SWIM overall does not suggest IV adderall. Try 100mg of meth.
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Old 24-11-2009, 19:04
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Re: IV Adderall or Amphetamine base

Dreddy doesn't think that enough was tried when did it. Although felt something, no rush, but thinks if done more then things may have been different. When last got script filled, didn't get the ones with the AD on them and they just turn to gooey stuff in water. Are all the pills like that now? Or just certain brands? And....is there any way to dissolve that gooey crap so that it will work.....I have been looking everywhere for a soloution, but can't find anything....Dreddy would like to know what brand to get next time, if anyone knows?....Thanks...oh, and by the way...."drugs are bad....mmmmkay..."
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Old 04-12-2009, 22:58
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Re: IV Adderall or Amphetamine base

It's quite simply called Amphetamine salts. That is the exact name on the bottle.

Its not a brand name, it's generic Adderall.

Adderall is nothing more than a mixture of Amphetamine and Dextroamphetamine, both of which are salts (a molecular bond of a metal to an acid).
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Old 11-12-2009, 15:26
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Re: IV Adderall or Amphetamine base

SWIM has moved on a lot since this post, more sensible over IV administration of pills, more knowledgeable/experienced, thanks for the replies in this thread. SWIM has a prescription of Dexedrine (he did not know at the time Adderall was unavailable in the UK), but he does not consider it an option to IV the pill especially as he has no micron filter.
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Re: IV Adderall or Amphetamine base

So I was just reading this thread and would like to comment, my dog just underwent an extremely pleasurable rush from IV'ing powdered Adderall IR for his first time. Used a cotton, burned for a little bit for sanitation and then pop goes the weezle. Jesus, and my dog had been worrying this whole time if he was ruining his nostril lining due to insufflation.
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Re: IV Adderall or Amphetamine base

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i v injection of adderal is a waste, it's a pain in the ass, i heard it doesn't get you any higher , and if it did it wouldn't last long. Pills are a pain in the ass to shoot and no benefit . At least that's what i read somewhere.... I don't understand the addiction of iv use . Unless it is an injectable form already. Still then just muscle it, it won't last as long as ingested in pill form though....
never intro muscular a pill of any kind. Its not meant for that the absess alone is miserable. Intro vienious isnt smart either but the chances of sucess in doing it is better
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Re: IV Adderall or Amphetamine base

Swim has tried this a few times with amphetamine salts, IR. Never had much effect or any rush. That being said, swim only used one 30mg. Swim upped the dosage to 60mg and the effects were felt. There is a rush and good lasting high after the rush is gone. Swim has tolerance though this was his first dose in a week and a half. For swims tolerance, 90 to 120 mg would probably give an amazing rush and high.

Prep took some time. Crushed 60mg into fine powder. Very fine. Used large spoon, for larger dose use larger spoon or multiple spoons. For 60mg swim recommend at least 1cc rig. The larger the better although you can use 2 and hit back to back quickly if you are skilled at injecting. Mix water, preferably distilled or at least filtered or bottled. Mix very well for at least a few minutes, swim used 100 units in a 1cc rig. Pull through filter, cotton is not recommended but will work for the most part but its more dangerous. Draw very slowly or your filter or cotton will just clog up, when this does happen, squeeze out cotton back into spoon and switch to a new one until you've gotten as much back as possible. Liquid should be clear and orange, not cloudy. Shoot mixture into a clean unused spoon. Keep track of how much you get back. Refill rig with water, swim used another 100 units. Stir again, filter again in same fashion. Squirt liquid into spoon containing already filtered liquid. If dose is higher you will need to repeat accordingly. Swim really recommends a 2cc rig for 2 30mg pills or basically 1cc per pill so a 4cc rig would be sufficient for a 120mg dose(4 pills). Then when you have everything filtered into your clean spoon, use a fresh filter and draw up the clear orange solution. You can triple filter if you want to be extra careful but please take the time to at least double filter. DO NOT USE HEAT. It destroys the drug and dissolves the binders which you do not want. You are now ready to inject. Use IV, NOT IM. IM is pointless with this drug. Do your best not to miss. If you have to use two rigs, a friend that can hit you would help, use two different veins. You hit one and your friend hits the other at same time being careful not to miss. Swim doesn't recommend small veins. Inject somewhat slowly as to not explode your vein inside your skin. It's much better to use a large enough rig than to use multiple rigs.

Injecting pills is dangerous and not recommended but imo, safer than street drugs being that you know what you're getting.

Swim didn't think iv adderal wwould ever work for him but with the right dosage and prepping, swim had a very enjoyable experience. Please be safe if you are going to do this, and up the dosages in increments, don't just jump to 120 mg off rip, see how a lower dosage effects you first.

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Re: IV Adderall or Amphetamine base

Ive had lackluster effects; like many of you describe every time ive banged dextroamphetamine 5mg or 10 mg and I was also disappointed in the dull unexciting effect from shooting an adderall IR, I cant remember the mg I know it wasnt very high though. However, today I found a forgotten prescription in my house. They are dextroamphetamine 30 mg tablets, and there was a little over 70 pills!! Score! theyre pink, round, one side says "cor 136" and the other side is scored to break into 4 peices. I dissolved 1 pill with warm water in a spoon and sucked it up through a cotton using a 22 gauge needle, huge I know but thats all I got right now, luckily I also found that in the house, needles are illegal without a prescription in my area. I spiked that sucker in my arm and watched red mix into the strange pink liquid, slowly push and re-register to be safe. "Wow I feel pretty fuckin good" I thought to myself. My ears rang slightly and shortly, could have to do with me already consuming 7 pills. Effects dont seem to diminish any faster than orally, I just got a nice rush comparable to shitty meth. Best experience ive had with prescription stims. Oh and these pills are like 2 years past their expiration date yet if theres any potency loss its very minimal.
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Re: IV Adderall or Amphetamine base

So, this is me putting together the seemingly-best of what everyone in this thread, thus far, has mentioned:

This is in no way a finished guide, I will even state where variables occur where I have questions, that I do not know the answer to, but I feel my contribute in this soon to be:

The Absolute Best, Noob Guide; in Reference to:
Gettin' as Much Amphets, Gettin' as Lil Good-Knows-What From:
AT LEAST, Right-This-Moment Because You Currently-Don't Have:
Time, to Learn About a bunch of Standard Stuff, That Could Possibly:
Be Difficult to Aquire or Easy to Detect, Maybe Even Potentially:
Volotile/Dangerous, Sounding Chemicals That: Absolutely-Can:
Do Stuff, to Stuff, Which is Kindof Silly, because:
No-One That Will Ever Read This Will Probably-Ever Know:
What Else, IS TRUELLY-EVEN IN, Those:
Fast Little Instant-Release Tablets We:
Want Inside of Us, Even Faster, Beyond That of:
AMPHETAMINES

(At least its a... working title?)

You'll note my inability to decide how this will be formatted. I've already spent an hour on this and I got a ton of other shit; I really should be doing that isn't this; though I find this important, no-one else in my current physical realm would.

Immediate Variable: Heard that amphetamines: won't dissolved in acetone. I never heard of the brand of product they mentioned, but most people know someone with basic nail polish remover. I JUST found some generic dollar store crap, a female had in her crap. (I'll list its exact ingredients later tonight, I really can't believe I started this, knowing I can't simply... simplify anything, plus I'm obviously-a little... obsessively-quick, atm, we'll say.) Anywho, I read some random man (Cite Me)say that amphetamines won't dissolve in it. From some random internoodle place, maybe on this forum, even (for real, i don't remember, but I need to shut up). So, I kind of already want to change the first step to:

#) Crush it up, stir it in ([Unit], is already our second variable.) somthiliters of nail polish remover. Filter it out by: (No, idea. Mr. Random, happened to be specifically-vague). Now that there isn't any acetone to shoot into your veins how about we move on to: Unofficial Step 2: Kindof-Official Step 1


1) Crush it, Dissolve It, But Not Too Much!!!

A)Why? Idk. Cuz This guy that posted earlier said that the speed goes in the water before the.... "gunk? does? Can you believe that guy?! He doesn't even say what smart guy told him that its Official Science!!!!!! Note that: Amphetamine, WILL(So, we think, delete this after someone adds citation.) dissolve in the water, before the fillers/binders.

CITATION REQUIRED: FOR RESPECT AND STUFF!!!!

One for what that dude said, and for the potentially ignorant crap, I might be about to spew


a) The gauge of time-lapse is between which of our two solutes (The 1st being "amphetamines" and the second being "completely random binders/fillers that most of which "probably or more-than likely?" dissolve slower" {I did read mention, a couple times, from citations I cannot prove or remember about a property of amphetamines being: their tendency at quickedness when dissolving into, I forget, either: a liquid solvent or water as a solvent. I also remember reading in some random place out on that internet there, that some amphetamines [I think d-methamphetamine] can even liquify into a liquid state on their own and be injected that way, prior to the temperature at which it they would vaporize, why the HELL anyone would want to inject a warm or hot liquid into their veins is FAR BEYOND ME. *looks down unproudly as he recalls his latest ex-girlfriend pointing to a scar on her arm; in which she claimed, it came from injecting Hot Morphine?* I never looked further into that. Anyways, before you begin laughing at what YOU would call a digression....})into our solvent has yet to be mentioned and is unknown by me as well.

2) Perhaps quickly? Follow this smart-sounding routine, mentioned by a previous poster to leave behind as little Substance X, as possible.

A) Filter, Squish, Replace
A) Filter, Squish, Replace
C) SQUIRT
D) Filter, Squish, Replace
E) Filter, Squish, Replace
F) Don't be like the following guy, I guess.

a) I've stupidly shot all sorts of generic mg adderalls (shit, even XRs, taking a relatives word that, "All ya gotta do, is crush the beads, add water, and draw it through a cotton or two, Bro!" without paying it much attention as to how well I, "or my Wing-giver, lol", or what the hell was putting in/doing to myself/herself. I suppose, I was in a period of not-giving-a-fuckness, and she had been there for awhile.

3) Check clarity! Pick the biggest vein.

4) You know, what's next. You didn't have to read this step. Time-waster... omg I gotta FUCKING GO!!!! no more edits from this point on, but know that they will occur!!!!!!

5) Immediately-become: Mad Paranoid. Google for four hours, believing you can actually comprehend some highly-advanced over-the-top potentially-possible way of improvin' your cardiovascular health for fear of the 10-20 horrible thingies that I guess can happen to you from shootin' pills or:

A) Anything, THAT IS NOT: tried-and-true, water-soluable, narcotics, whos long-term effects have been well-studied by degree-carrying scientists/researchers, and tweakers-the-like, for clinically-significant amounts of time.

B) Anything, THAT IS: Random (Or fuck, who knows?) maybe, not-so-random, chemical or physical substance(s?) unable to be identified by any member of the general public. Shit, I'm not sure what kind of public doctors, and press release interviewers fall under, but they can't seem to get information on it either.




This crap down here, below these words that make up a paragraph, and their accompanying punctuation marks. I don't remember what they are. Maybe they're stuff I Was copying and pasting or something, idk. I'll figure it out, another time. I've got to go. Long time reader of these forums, I finally tried to give back, no where near done, and its easily the...[ idk what adjectives to use lol] written document I've ever comprised, in two hours. I'm happy with that, please help me add to it, or whatever don't.


***


and Filter, Squish, Replace SQUIRTOne of you mentioned that after filtering it through a micron-filter, or two, that you squirted it out and filtered it througha couple more micron-filters. This seems to be a good idea, as you mentioned that the solution you drew back was clear. The other poster mentioned that his was slightly pink, I think? or orange? Whatever, the same color as the pill, he's trying to get drugs outta. The same was always true for myself, and the other people I know who've tried IVin' addies.


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