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Old 27-08-2009, 19:37
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Piperazines in Ecstasy

Hi everyone,
SWIM has heard about many Ecstasy pills filled with Piperazines & Amphetamines in replacement of MDMA (3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine) ... SWIM was wondering if this was true and tested and also if it was dangerous for his health... He was also wondering what was the actual difference between MDMA (3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine) and Piperazines and why people would put those things and not MDMA?
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Re: Piperazines in Ecstasy

the chemical components for the making of mdma became more controlled substances therefore much less available, so now piperazines are much easier and cheaper to produce.
result: scumbag producers and dealers flooded the market with piperazine-family garbage pills sold as ecstasy.
the situation is dramatic in europe, seems to be a bit better in the us.
mdma and piperazine are 2 very different substances with very different effects.
really love mdma, fuckin hate piperazine, a cheap dirty unpleasant chemical swim stays far away from.

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