Detoxing - Fentanyl with Loperamide...my hell, my life. - Part 8

By lostlygirl · Nov 13, 2014 · ·
  1. I figured that each patch had about 3 hours worth of 'good' meds in them using them orally. I ideally would suck on one piece for about 20-30 minutes every 3-4 hours except before bed because I was to scared I wouldn't wake up. But that meant that I was waking up pretty early the next morning in withdrawals. A few days before I ran out I started sucking on them longer, for at least an hour, and going through 2 halves in 1 day. If I had stayed at the 1/2 patch per day I wouldn't have run out as I change them every other day. I have an exceptionally fast metabolism which was part of the problem with the pain pills. They would work really fast but run out a good 2 hours before the next dose. Apparently, according to the Dr's I also metabolized the meds given during surgery really fast as well. I am hoping that's helpful during withdrawals.

    I may also be feeling crappy because I stopped taking HRT. I had a complete hysterectomy in 2010 and have been on HTR ever since. My Dr just recently put me on testosterone as well as the estrogen as my lab results came at less than .02%. I stopped taking them to try and mitigate the heart risk associated with Loperamide. I took 1/2 a dose of estrogen today but not the testosterone. I may have to start increasing the estrogen back to my regular does whilst reducing the Loperamide. I'm thinking the lack hormones is most likely aggravating the withdrawals. I also think I might actually be sick as 2 of my kids came home from school with headaches, so it may not all be from withdrawals.

    I will research the Kratom tonight. Thanks for your quick response! :)

    We will get through this.... There will be a fucking rose parade!

    lostlygirl added 3 Minutes and 46 Seconds later...

    Less than .002 testosterone, sorry my post didn't quite make that clear. I have been on estrogen for 4 yrs, testosterone for 2 weeks.

    lostlygirl added 3 Minutes and 16 Seconds later...

    Sorry, my brain is still mush. I was reading today about a 'healing crisis', have you heard of such a thing and do you think it could apply to withdrawals?

Comments

  1. Jungledog
    Your HRT and testosterone levels being fucked is NOT just perimenopause...it is actually from the opiates fucking the HPA axis. Testosterone would be a much greater risk to take in a way of having a heart attack. Ventricular arrhythmias are not heart attacks. Loperamide causes ventricular arrhythmias...I saw nothing in the literature about myocardial infarction (heart attack). Heart attacks are when a piece of plaque breaks off and occludes the artery. VT/Vib is an electrical problem where the ventricles get all fucked up and fail to pump, hence you lose your pulse and become dead. Safer alternative to repair your body hormones is Adrenal support herbs and a DHEA supplement (buy 25mg but break in half to 12.5mg) It took a bit (few weeks) but my body started making hormones again and my periods resumed. Low T causes VERY bad fatigue and brain fog. There is a great book called Revive (forget the author). It is about something called adrenal fatigue...which can classically be caused by long term opiate use.

    Hope this clarifies things.
    JD
  2. Hydroxyout
    Lostlygirl!

    My god I cannot imagine getting off fentanyl and how hard this must be but you're doing it! I'v read all your updates and I'm amazed! Please know that we're all really proud of you and will be here to support you all the way! When you look in the mirror, know that you're stronger than you may think and that you're not alone. We're right there with you honey.

    Keep it up hon. You're doing great!
  3. Jungledog
    LG,

    Healing crisis meaning the body is detoxing and starting to heal itself. It is VERY common as people switch from the current typical Standard American diet (SAD) over to whole foods. Basically as you provide it with foods and nutrients it knows what the fuck to do with it begins to clean house. Green smoothies are a great place to start.

    Have you ever heard people bitch about feeling lousy on a diet (esp those that push salads and reduce meat)? They incorrectly interrupt this as the lack of meat is making them sick. What is really happening is the body is detoxing...the same as it does with opiates (although milder). People feel tired, sluggish, have headaches and feel unwell. This becomes their excuse to stop the diet. What is happening is the body is flushing all the trapped toxins from your fat and into your blood stream to then be removed by the liver and kidneys.

    So as you switch to plant based (even if you do keep in some animals) just go slow. Like Hydroxyout's song the body knows EXACTLY how to heal itself. But honestly will never do so if you continue to eat processed garbage. It's too busy storing that shit in fat cells to keep it away from your vital organs. Easy formula...fat= toxin accumulation. Flush the toxins with clean water, healthy food (especially veggies and fruit), exercise, and sauna and the toxins flush away with the fat. Just know that as they do you might feel crappy. But I promise as you get cleaner the energy you had when you were 12 yrs old comes back!!!

    Hope you are feeling OK today. Keep fighting. It's gonna end at some point...just keep swimming to the other side.

    Hugs,
    JD
  4. Hydroxyout
    I add one more song to the list.

    Depeche Mode - "Wrong"

    Wrong
    Wrong
    Wrong
    Wrong

    I was born with the wrong sign
    In the wrong house
    With the wrong ascendancy
    I took the wrong road
    That led to
    The wrong tendencies
    I was in the wrong place
    At the wrong time
    For the wrong reason and the wrong rhyme
    On the wrong day
    Of the wrong week
    Used the wrong method with the wrong technique

    Wrong

    Wrong

    There's something wrong with me chemically
    Something wrong with me inherently
    The wrong mix
    In the wrong genes
    I reached the wrong ends
    By the wrong means
    It was the wrong plan
    In the wrong hands
    The wrong theory for the wrong man
    The wrong eyes
    On the wrong prize
    The wrong questions with the wrong replies

    Wrong

    Wrong

    I was marching to the wrong drum
    With the wrong scum
    Pissing out the wrong energy
    Using all the wrong lines
    And the wrong signs
    With the wrong intensity
    I was on the wrong page
    Of the wrong book
    With the wrong rendition of the wrong look
    With the wrong moon
    Every wrong night
    With the wrong tune played till it sounded right, yeah

    Wrong

    Wrong (too long) [x6]

    I was born with the wrong sign
    In the wrong house
    With the wrong ascendancy
    I took the wrong road
    That led to
    The wrong tendencies
    I was in the wrong place
    At the wrong time
    For the wrong reason and the wrong rhyme
    On the wrong day
    Of the wrong week
    Used the wrong method with the wrong technique

    Wrong


    It's the only song I like by depeche mode but god damn it's a good one.
  5. Jungledog
    ^^^^yes, yes it is!!! JD
  6. Hydroxyout
    Brings tears to my eyes sometimes.
  7. Jungledog
    LG,

    What's going on my friend??

    JD

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    Hope you are well. Thinking about you! Hugs, JD
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