I've actually read a couple of your threads and i have to say very inspirational and very helpful. I was addicted for 4 years then PAWS got me and i relapsed 5 months sober. I have nothing anymore because of it.. i need to be done with this for good so i can just move on with my life. The kratom I've been using isn't even red vein is a weak version of it and I've only been taking 1/4 teaspoons of it every 5 hours which helps a LOT. The tramadol is only 50 mg each and I've only taken 3 yesterday and today. I think i can do it this time i just gotta make it through PAWS and I'm good. That for me is the hardest part of it all. I've read that you've been having the same problem so i wish you the best of luck. There's a light at the end we just gotta work or way out to it.