Quitting Oxycodone with Loperamide- My story begins... - Part 145

By Jungledog · Dec 14, 2014 · ·
  1. Day 8 Clean

    Good morning all! The good news is I woke feeling a bit better. I am sitting here having tea and waking up fully. My flu symptoms seem to have lessened greatly. My pain is sucking but nothing new there. I am going to push myself to move today. I need to just get up and get things done.

    Beachwalk, I hope the recipes work. Just play with it. Clonidine is an alpha blocker. It reduces greatly the sympathetic nervous system response. So it calms the body greatly. I prescribe it to many of my patients as a non-addicting anti-anxiety drug. It can help with RLS, the shakes, the chills, the sweating. As long as your BP is greater than 120 on the top (systolic) you can bare small doses (0.1mg) every 8 hours. When do you plan to taper and jump?

    LG, I have missed you my friend but I figured you just needed time to cope. I did that a few days ago. Had to push myself to get here as I knew I needed the support but it was just hard. Push through. Taper the loperamide the whole time. Can you get gabapentin??? It would help you a lot.

    Bumble, Thanks for the kind words. This process has been immensely difficult but I am proud that I was able to keep working and supporting my family. That stated I really had no other choice. It makes me sad that I ever got caught up with overusing my pills. I of all people knew better. But now I choose to keep my head straight and get back to a productive life and to a real relationship with my spouse. It is scary some days to face it. I get so tired of hurting but I know I will just need to find a way to manage it without daily use of opiates.

    Have a great day everyone. Keep kicking opiate ass. We got this.

Comments

  1. Jungledog
    "Nothing is impossible. The word itself says 'I'm possible.'"

    Audrey Hepburn

    We are all possible. Leaving opiates behind is possible. Just believe it.
  2. BeachWalk
    Do you really mean BP greater than 120? Isn't that high blood pressure? I thought the normal range was 120/80. Mine is usually around 110/60.

    I was going to start my taper now (pre-Christmas) but then thought the holidays are way too stressful and a recipe for disaster, so I plan on tapering right afterwards. My pain clinic PA would only give me 8 - 0.1mg Clonodine and 12 Hydroxyzine 50mg capsules. Would *not* give me gabapentin or anything else for that matter so I had to procure it "elsewhere" along with some baclofen. I have klonopin and my regular lexapro dosage from my primary care Dr. It would be SO nice to have the full support from one medical resource - especially a pain clinic - but that ain't gonna happen. Have an appt. w/a psychiatrist but couldn't get in until late January 2015. It's enough to drive one to drink or drugs or ... chocolate.

    But enough about me....sorry about that! Glad you're feeling better today. You are doing such an impressive job. We are ALL inspired.
  3. Jungledog
    Bp at 120 is fine. A BP of 110 the clonidine may wipe you out. I would start with a half dose. Taper slow and you will be fine. Most of the hurt is taken away by a slow taper. :)
  4. marathonmel7
    Hey JD, how are you feeling? I hope you're better. The flu sucks. I just wanted to check in on you. Do you live in Florida too?

    You're doing great. Keep up the good work. I will check back in on you later.

    Take care. Enjoy your Sunday.
  5. marathonmel7
    This was my deployment song when I was shipped off to Iraq… brings back a lot of emotion.


    "Here Without You"

    A hundred days have made me older
    Since the last time that I saw your pretty face
    A thousand lies have made me colder
    And I don't think I can look at this the same

    But all the miles that separate
    Disappear now when I'm dreaming of your face

    I'm here without you, baby
    But you're still on my lonely mind
    I think about you, baby
    And I dream about you all the time
    I'm here without you, baby

    But you're still with me in my dreams
    And tonight it's only you and me, yeah.

    The miles just keep rollin'
    As the people leave their way to say hello
    I've heard this life is overrated
    But I hope that it gets better as we go, oh, yeah, yeah

    I'm here without you, baby
    But you're still on my lonely mind
    I think about you, baby
    And I dream about you all the time
    I'm here without you, baby

    But you're still with me in my dreams
    And tonight, girl, its only you and me

    Everything I know, and anywhere I go (oh whoa)
    It gets hard but it won't take away my love (oh whoa)
    And when the last one falls
    When it's all said and done
    It gets hard but it wont take away my love, whoa, oh, oh

    I'm here without you, baby
    But you're still on my lonely mind
    I think about you, baby
    And I dream about you all the time
    I'm here without you, baby

    But you're still with me in my dreams
    And tonight, girl, it's only you and me

    marathonmel7 added 7 Minutes and 10 Seconds later…

    This is my latest favorite, watch the video, highly controversial… amazing song. To me and all the LGBT community.

    "Take Me To Church"

    My lover's got humour
    She's the giggle at a funeral
    Knows everybody's disapproval
    I should've worshipped her sooner

    If the heavens ever did speak
    She's the last true mouthpiece
    Every Sunday's getting more bleak
    A fresh poison each week

    'We were born sick, ' you heard them say it

    My Church offers no absolutes
    She tells me, 'Worship in the bedroom.'
    The only heaven I'll be sent to
    Is when I'm alone with you—

    I was born sick,
    But I love it
    Command me to be well
    Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen.

    [Chorus 2x:]
    Take me to church
    I'll worship like a dog at the shrine of your lies
    I'll tell you my sins and you can sharpen your knife
    Offer me that deathless death
    Good God, let me give you my life

    If I'm a pagan of the good times
    My lover's the sunlight
    To keep the Goddess on my side
    She demands a sacrifice

    Drain the whole sea
    Get something shiny
    Something meaty for the main course
    That's a fine looking high horse
    What you got in the stable?
    We've a lot of starving faithful

    That looks tasty
    That looks plenty
    This is hungry work

    [Chorus 2x:]
    Take me to church
    I'll worship like a dog at the shrine of your lies
    I'll tell you my sins so you can sharpen your knife
    Offer me my deathless death
    Good God, let me give you my life

    No Masters or Kings
    When the Ritual begins
    There is no sweeter innocence than our gentle sin

    In the madness and soil of that sad earthly scene
    Only then I am Human
    Only then I am Clean

    Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen.

    [Chorus 2x:]
    Take me to church
    I'll worship like a dog at the shrine of your lies
    I'll tell you my sins and you can sharpen your knife
    Offer me that deathless death
    Good God, let me give you my life


    Me and Heroin

    "Sedated"

    Just a little rush, babe
    To feel dizzy, to derail the mind of me
    Just a little hush, babe
    Our veins are busy but my heart's in atrophy
    Any way to distract and sedate
    Adding shadows to the walls of the cave

    You and I nursing on a poison that never stung
    Our teeth and lungs are lined with the scum of it
    Somewhere for this, death and guns
    We are deaf, we are numb
    Free and young and we can feel none of it

    Something isn't right, babe
    I keep catching little words but the meaning's thin
    I'm somewhere outside my life, babe
    I keep scratching but somehow I can't get in
    So we're slaves to any semblance of touch
    Lord we should quit but we love it too much

    Sedated we're nursing on a poison that never stung
    Our teeth and lungs are lined with the scum of it
    Somewhere for this, death and guns
    We are deaf, we are numb
    Free and young and we can feel none of it

    Darlin', don't you, stand there watching, won't you
    Come and save me from it
    Darlin', don't you, join in, you're supposed to
    Drag me away from it

    Any way to distract and sedate
    Adding shadows to the walls of the cave

    You and I nursing on a poison that never stung
    Our teeth and lungs are lined with the scum of it
    Somewhere for this, death and guns
    We are deaf, we are numb
    Free and young and we can feel none of it

    Sedated we're nursing on a poison that never stung
    Our teeth and lungs are lined with the scum of it
    Somewhere for this, death and guns
    We are deaf, we are numb
    Free and young and we can feel none of it
  6. BitterSweet
    Marathonmel, those are like my two new favourite songs right now! Take me to church and sedated, and I love all of the other Hozier songs I came across on YouTube. The guy is so kickass. Listen to "in a week" by Hozier.
  7. marathonmel7
    Right on BitterSweet :) I will check that song out!
  8. lostlygirl
    Mel, we have the same taste in music! I've been listening to 'take me to church' since it came out in 2012. I posted it on my thread on page 2, lol! One of my favorite pastimes is hunting down new music. Art & music run together, if I don't know what's happening in music (alternative, it's the only one that influences artistic society...I have a whole lecture series on that) then I can't accurately predict what to paint. I will post some songs over the next few days.

    Great thread, JD!
  9. smith9666
    Hey JD,

    Sorry I haven't posted lately. I've been feeling down lately. Not sick or WD's... Just blah I guess LOL. It's crazy how we (you, me and LG) all felt crappy at the same time.

    I can't believe its been 8 days for you! No kratom and no opiates. That is amazing. Just a couple weeks ago you were talking about hoping to jump after Xmas and its barely even the 14th and you are already 8 days clean. That's awesome. I'm so happy for you ;)

    Having the flu sucks. I have never had it so I can't really symphathize with you but I can imagine. Bad timing too with everything that's going on.

    Anyways, just wanted to stop in and say hi. I'll try to get out of my negative mindset soon. Just having a bad few days is all :(
  10. Mr Bumble
    Hey JD girl, was re reading your first post now I'm a bit more with it and was thinking about your chronic pain issues and hyperalgesia. I have a friend with the same problem. her back was seriously damaged in a car crash. Anyway after years of morphine use it developed into heavy morphine abuse and was ruining her life. She went through hell but is now 6 months clean of all drugs.

    She still has a lot of pain but tries to deal with it in different ways or just reminds herself that her life is so much better living with the pain than living the non-life of a addict.

    Stay strong girl and thanks for all the input you put into so many threads, I'm always seeing your name pop up xx
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