Quitting Oxycodone with Loperamide- My story begins... - Part 166

By Jungledog · Dec 28, 2014 · ·
  1. LG, I would probably just stop taking the DHEA although some is needed to make cortisol too. Yes, in your case it is probably the long term fentanyl. In post menopausal females (and this includes surgical menopause), the adrenal glands are the place where your sex hormones are made. The strong opiate has suppressed this gland. As you wean down, it might come back.

    I have been treating my adrenal fatigue with herbs since March. I added in the DHEA around September (before that I had the pellets). I stopped the opiates about 3 months ago now (I think...it has been a big blur) and I have had two normal periods the past 2 months...so the body can reset itself. I just know I have been slipping with the diet part and need to get back to it. The body takes about 18-24 months to recuperate from AI. The fact that I have been taking kratom during this time tells me it affects my system differently than oxycodone and morphine did.

    For you, I'd just stick with the HRT. It's working.

    Mel, I know today was tough but you got through it without relapsing! That is awesome my friend! Your hormones will reset themselves too and for you, if I recall correctly, you are a bit younger. Your hormones should reset better than those of us in or nearing menopause. I know that doesn't make you feel better right now but know it should get better soon. It's funny that you mention the sex drive thing because today was the first time in a long time where I actually thought about sex! I'm pretty happy about that. I thought my drive fucking died and was buried. :)

    Hang in my friend and take this shit one moment at a time.


  1. lostlygirl
    I think hormones are a very important conversation in an opiate recovery forum.

    Interestingly, when I researched DHEA in Jan of 2014, WebMD was one of the sites that strongly recommended the supplement. I was just researching it again as due to adding testosterone and WebMD is now (strangely) less optimistic. On researching who owns WebMD, I came across this: 'In 2013, the Chicago Tribune reported that WebMD, "has struggled with a fall in advertising revenue with pharmaceutical companies slashing marketing budgets as several blockbuster drugs go off patent." In response, WebMD was investing in changes to its site the company hopes will entice users who use its site seeking specific information to then linger on the site reviewing other material."

    I find this a comment on how strongly drug companies control the information out there and how very difficult it is to find unbiased, accurate information. I can imagine that as a health care provider you must be very frustrated with the control both drug and insurance companies have on the American health system, as well as the impact it has on our daily lives. I was disappointed with the change of information on WebMD. It's not typically a site I use for conclusive information (I prefer to read actual studies), but I know many people use it.
  2. guinea.pig
    After reading this and having some concerns about my adrenal functioning already, I'm going to have a discussion with my endocrinologist about getting my cortisol levels tested to see where I am. I've been diagnosed with Hashimoto's Thyroiditis since I was 25 and am currently on Armour Thyroid. My last blood draw was last week, so I haven't gotten the results back, so it's quite possible that my thyroid levels have dropped some. However, being on MMT for a long term basis, dealing with an unusual work schedule, and some recent life stress has left me feeling more sluggish than I can remember in years. I think I'm going to pick up some DHEA at the grocery store the next time I'm there as the additional support would likely be a good thing even if my cortisol levels aren't low once I get them tested.

    I'd misunderstood or gotten the wrong impression of the situation, then, and apologize as my advice was based on a flawed perception. You're NOT a fool - far from it. In this case I think that marriage counseling could be just what the doctor ordered! I'm glad to hear that you're both willing to work on your issues together and committed to making it work. I'd thought things had gotten far beyond this point, but if there's still a glimmer of hope of preserving and strengthening your union, by all means try that before you do anything else!! I think many times divorce is jumped to all too quickly because people don't want to do the work or have just given up and won't even entertain the idea of counseling. Thank you for not doing that then and for not taking my advice! I was very, very wrong and I'm glad that I was. :)

    Now that is absolutely awesome that y'all are doing it together!! Clean eating has been a wonder for me and I wish that I'd discovered it long before I did. I've been cheating a little too much lately, admittedly, with the holidays and whatnot.

    Don't beat yourself up over the kratom usage. Pain makes everything worse and if it's helping and not causing other problems in your life, why stress yourself out needlessly over it?

    I agree with this wholeheartedly. You do need to focus on yourself and getting better. You've come so far and are doing an amazing job! Things will get better and easier as you get better and I can't wait to see the result of it all. :)

    You raise good points about the results of divorce, happiness or lack thereof in a marriage, and the advice that people tend to give. Also, I think that those who've watched their parents' marriage deteriorate in addition to dealing with their own marital issues (whether or not they ended in divorce or not) colors the advice that people tend to give. I wasn't happy in my marriage, have been far happier since the divorce, and generally speaking only recommend divorce as a last resort as was what happened with my parents' situation. I thought you were at this point, had tried everything else, and that the situation was far more bleak than it apparently is; hence my advice was wrong for the reality of your situation. Again, I apologize and am glad you're going to try to work on those problems. I really do hope that they can be addressed and that it leads to happiness for you and your family.
  3. supermono
    "What A Wonderful World"
    "Some of you young folks been saying to me," Hey Pops, what you mean 'What a wonderful world'?

    How about all them wars all over the place? You call them wonderful?

    And how about hunger and pollution? That ain't so wonderful either."

    Well how about listening to old Pops for a minute. Seems to me, it aint the world that's so bad but what we're doin' to it.

    And all I'm saying is, see, what a wonderful world it would be if only we'd give it a chance. Love baby, love. That's the secret, yeah. If lots more of us loved each other, we'd solve lots more problems. And then this world would be better.

    That's wha' ol' Pops keeps saying."

    I see trees of green,
    red roses too.
    I see them bloom,
    for me and you.
    And I think to myself,
    what a wonderful world.

    I see skies of blue,
    And clouds of white.
    The bright blessed day,
    The dark sacred night.
    And I think to myself,
    What a wonderful world.

    The colors of the rainbow,
    So pretty in the sky.
    Are also on the faces,
    Of people going by,
    I see friends shaking hands.
    Saying, "How do you do?"
    They're really saying,
    "I love you".

    I hear babies cry,
    I watch them grow,
    They'll learn much more,
    Than I'll ever know.
    And I think to myself,
    What a wonderful world.

    Yes, I think to myself,
    What a wonderful world.

    Oh yea
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