Quitting Oxycodone with Loperamide- My story begins... - Part 168

By Jungledog · Dec 30, 2014 · ·
  1. Gdw,

    Phenibut is somewhat related to Baclofen. Both are known to cause tachycardia in some people. I get a fast heart rate from Flexeril. Don't feel stupid. There was no way for you to know it would do this to you. Just know you should probably avoid muscle relaxers in the future.

    Glad you are feeling better!

    Jungledog added 44 Minutes and 7 Seconds later...

    Good morning all.

    I am feeling really good. I cannot believe how much of my exhaustion was depression. I feel like a huge weight has been lifted from my body. I literally feel lighter. My mood is also lighter. Those dark thoughts are gone. I found myself smiling yesterday and honestly can't remember the last time I did that. Pretty cool shit considering I have been on it 9 days and it takes 4-6 weeks to kick in fully. It is like hope in a pill!

    My husband and I got to have alone time last night. We are communicating much better. He has apologized for this past year. And not to give TMI, but we actually connected physically last night for the first time in many months. We found a counselor and will start that in a week.

    Sticking to clean eating and feeling good about it. Down 1 pound! My pain has been a little less intense with the Cymbalta or perhaps I just feel better so I can handle it more. Still using kratom once or twice daily. No high so still feeling ok about this choice.

    Hope you are all doing well. Have to leave for a business meeting soon.

    Jungledog added 1433 Minutes and 57 Seconds later...

    Good morning all. I have gotten a number of PMs asking for suggestions on the management of anxiety. So I thought I would share what has worked for my patients.

    Anxiety is your sympathetic nervous system going ape shit. For us addicts, it results from healing brains and wonky hormones that make us feel nervous. It also is a strong component of PTSD. Most of us try to treat it when it gets severe with medications such as benzos. In the beginning, these work by sedating the body but with time you need more and more.

    A better medical approach is taking an SSRI. I have had the most success with Celexa and Lexapro. Everyone is an individual so work with your doctor to find the one that works for you. They work by increasing serotonin in your brain. The hands down best anti-anxiety drug for "in the moment" attacks is Clonidine. If your resting BP is 120 or above, you can safely use this drug. I have also prescribed it to some with lower BP because when you are in the middle of panic, your BP goes high. It works well with no addictive properties.

    Medication is useful but preventing the anxiety is where the magic happens. So how do we prevent it? We fix the sympathetic response. How? Exercise. Specifically interval training. Interval training teaches the body how to relax. Walk or run as fast as you can for one minute. Then walk slower for 3. Repeat this for 20-30 minutes. It really is this easy. It teaches the body to engage recovery. Every time you have a panic attack and the body revs up, it will recall that the next step is recovery. The more you train, the less you will have anxiety and the quicker it will pass.

    The other step is yoga. Again, best book is Yoga as Medicine by Tim McCall. There is a chapter on anxiety. The positions I have had the best success with are legs up the wall, cat pose, big toe hold, forward bend, and the bridge pose. Do the yoga each morning or night religiously. It only takes 20 minutes. Restorative yoga literally engages the parasympathetic nervous system and helps the body heal. You can also try the legs up the wall pose with soft music each time anxiety hits. Meditation also helps a lot!!! Anxiety comes with racing thoughts so as you teach the mind to slow down you can then use that skill to reduce panic. Get a CD on meditation and start with 5 minutes of practice daily.

    Herbs that help are valerian, lavendar, and chamomile. I drink these in tea form several times per day. I find that if I forget my anxiety picks up.

    Lastly, caffeine and sugar are your enemies. They jack anxious feelings through the roof. Eliminate them from your diet. Other culprits are chocolate and dehydration. Too little fluid makes your heart rate go up which the body mistakes as anxiety. Hope this helps some of you out!

    I am doing good. Have a lot of work to do but other than that things are going well. Love to you all.


  1. Kitts
    ^^ Very interesting post on anxiety, thankyou JD.

    I'm really glad you are starting to feel better. Well done for taking the bull by the horns and making these changes. I'm getting so inspired here today. Your efforts at cleaning up your diet have encouraged me to do the same and I just ordered a pedometer, a scale and a diet journal. Nothing like a bit of shopping to kick start a healthy new lifestyle eh? :)

    Seriously, thankyou JD. I really appreciate your interesting posts. I've learnt a lot and R&A is all the richer for your being here.

    Keep on trucking.
    Much love,
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