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Dose - 10g of powdered poppy pods. Too much, too little?

Discussion in 'Opium & Poppy' started by TheSweetPea, Jun 23, 2010.

  1. TheSweetPea

    TheSweetPea Silver Member

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    Would 10g of powdered poppy pods for an opiate veteran be fine? Too much? Too little? Sorry for the snappy post but my good friend wanted me to guide him on his first poppy experience (he's done opiates for a long time, though. Takes about 60g of oxy to feel "good". Isn't the base dose 5g? BTW he's mixing up the powder into chocolate milk then chug-a-luggin'.
     
  2. Space Numpty

    Space Numpty Palladium Member

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    It is really hard to say because pod strength varies so much. When I get a new batch in he always starts at 5g, just incase, and then providing hes still alive, tends to ramp up to 10g.

    That would be my advice.
     
  3. TheSweetPea

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    My friends appreciates your feedback. He ingested 10g right after my post. He swears he can already feel the effects. Placebo?

    BTW he said mixing finely ground (consistency of flour) with lots of chocolate syrup and milk wasn't bad at all. He chugged it rather fast and exclaimed "It tastes no worse than a chocolate protein shake!". Figured I would let you guys know that.
     
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    Space Numpty gave good advice. Since pods and batches of pods can vary, it's always good to start low, wait an hour, and if it's not enough just take more. By grinding and mixing well, one can be assured of consistent quality, and can easily learn the dose range within one day..
     
  5. TheSweetPea

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    He made sure to grind and mix the batch. 10g was a very mellow experience. Didn't give him a strong high but definitely lifted him.
     
  6. Mr.Bliss

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    Grinding and mixing the batch for a consistent potentecy was definetly the way to go. Just increase you's dose by 2.5gs every time starting from 5g untill You finds the level of uncomparable bliss You is looking for ;). I have been a man of the pod for quite sometme now, he started at 10g's, hardly feeling anything but some fog and maybe some slight euphoria, after a week he was at 30-40g grams of pod. And that remains his dose daily to this date, batch after batch it's been the same, but I still start at 5g-10g every time.

    Just be careful with dosages and respect the pod. Don't become a slave, I have experienced the horrors of coming off them.

    (BTW SWIM toss n' washes all of his pod grounds like a champ with some coke, he finds this to be the most efficient way for him)
     
  7. Space Numpty

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    EWWWWW 30-40g toss and wash? Respect for that dude, I would hurl personally. I have a simple tea recipe if You (and OP's friend) are interested...

    Spaces simple pod tea recipe

    You will need
    • A French Press (Cafetiere), can be picked up pretty cheap 1/2L sze is ldeal
    • Lemon Juice (I buy the Jiff type pre-squeezed)
    • Powdered Papaver Somniferum Poppy Pods (5g if new to pods)
    • Fresh Boiled Water
    • A Mug
    • A teaspoon
    i) Fill French Press 2/3 with fresh boiled water
    ii) Add a good squirt of lemon juice (around 2 tablespoons)
    iii) Add pod powder and stir well with spoon
    iv) Allow to steep for at least 20 mins stirring well occasionally
    v) Give one final good stir and push down press plunger
    vi) Pour liquid into mug, making sure the plunger has been pushed all the way down and is squeezing all the liquid out of the powder.
    vii) Drink liquid
    viii) Prepare to spend the next few hours sat with a big smile on your face

    fun fun fun! :thumbsup:

    Always remember kids, pods are to be respected and I would recommend they are used a maximum of once every two weeks. I have withdrawn from other opiates/opiods and similar, such as Codiene, Dihydrocodiene and Kratom and they are not a touch on pod withdrawal, the depression and physical pains are horrible. Be warned and use responsibly :vibes:
     
  8. Lusty

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    Does "not a touch on" mean "easy compared to"? Sorry english is SWIM's first language.
     
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    Haha thanks. When I started doing it he would gag with every sip and almost yack, not anymore though! :D Practice makes perfect.

    I think by "not a touch on" he means "not even comparable too" as in saying that the withdrawals from Codeine, Dihydrocodiene, and Kratom are not even close on how bad the withdrawals are from pods. Which I would have to totally agree with. Don't qoute SWIM on this, but he believes he read somewhere that there is something like 25 different opiate alkaloids (or just different alkaloids) in pods that you withdrawal from. I have no idea of the authenticity of that statement but he knows for a fact pod withdrawals were worse for him then any other opiate he's done quite a plethora of them. Mainly excluding heroine.
     
  10. TheSweetPea

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    Ugh, so I used that french-press method with 30g of powdered poppy pods and half mason jar of seeds. He ate 20g of powdered pods earlier, so this brings him to 50g for the day. After waiting 30 mins and pressing the mash, the tea was the DARKEST he has ever seen. It looked just like coffee with little cream. "It's really f*cking bitter!", he exclaimed. SWIM still has half of the tea to drink and the itchiness is DRIVING HIM CRAZY!!! He said he took a loratadine earlier so he can't go out and get diphenhydramine.

    Any tips? He is just now beginning to feel dizzy and noddy and it's been not even 15 minutes since he consumed half the tea.

    TheSweetPea added 11 Minutes and 9 Seconds later...

    So ya, I am already nodding. He is really happy he only drank half the tea, or else he could be in trouble.

    By the way, SWIM made this tea with all the tiny little pods he had from the bottom of his batch, thinking it'd be crap. How wrong he was. Please learn from SWIM newbies, don't under estimate the potency of a pod, even if the others were weak.
     
    Last edited: Jun 26, 2010
  11. Space Numpty

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    Yup, my method works well doesnt it lol? Not that he can really claim ownership, its pretty much the same as other recipies, he just has found there is not need to keep it on the heat whilst it is steeping as many suggest.

    And yeah, be careful dude, especially adding all those seeds which can range from very little opium to a fair bit depending on how much they are coated with. I dont even bother with the seeds. When hes emptying the seeds out of the pods into a plastic beaker the static on the beaker tends to hold the opium on the sides of the beaker and he just wipes them up with his finger and sprinkles them into his crushed pods. If You has a perspex jug or something try it, sprinkle the seeds down the inside of the jug/glass and see if there are not loads of crunchy little brown bits clinging to the sides :thumbsup:
     
  12. gh0ul

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    SWIM only uses poppy tea for one reason... to keep from being sick. SWIM wishes they felt something... just feel normal. But SWIM guesses that's a good thing. SWIM must say this: I have to have about 90mgs at least of morphine twice a day to feel good. SO if I feel no Withdrawals whilst on the tea, and SWIM means for up to 14 hours, than theres quite a bit of "power" in 5 to 10 pods.
     
  13. TheSweetPea

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    Well when SWIM consumed that french press tea, he entered a whole new level of nod he never experienced. He can't explain it other than he would be sitting at the desk. He then would decide he needs to go get a glass of water. He then gets up, pours a glass, then snaps awake, realizing getting the water was a "dream" and he was nodding. This would happen every minute or so. Anyone have experiences similar to his?
     
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    It's always best to start out low as others have mentioned, and also it's good to grind up the entire shipment in to one bag/container so that it becomes homogenized (even pods in the same crop can vary in potency). SWIM generally finds 1g of pod powder is equivalent to a 5mg vicodin, but it can vary depending on the strength of the pods so it's best for You to figure it out for themselves.

    Of course it's still not identical to other opiods, because poppies contain a mixture of different opiods, and also tend to have a longer duration than typical opiods like heroin, hydrocodone, oxycodone, etc.