Combinations - 2C-B & Methylone - dosage and timing - learned opinions sought

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  1. Abrad

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    Methylone + 2c-b is wonderfull

    Today SWIM decided to ingest 200mg of Methylone. After about an hour it became clear that tolerance was a major issue and as this was the last of methylone I couldn't redose. He decided to ingest 10mg of 2c-b that was lying around for quite a while. 20mins later SWIM began to feel extremely euphoric, like the effects os a full dose of methylone but with a slightly more natural,less forced feeling of euphoria. He has some very interesting CEVs and at the moment he feels better than he has ever felt on any drug. I will try to write up a proper report later.

    2hr later I am tripping quite hard now. More than would be usually expected with the 2c-b. Feels more like 25mg rather than 10mg.

    5.24pm The trip winding down now. It was quite intense for a while. I was expecting some potentiation but he did not expect this.
     
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    1. 5/5,
      thanks for sharing the experience
      Sep 13, 2006
  2. Equality

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    Hey great I was wondering about his combo for a long time, but was afraid the effect of methylone wearing out would disturb the 2C-B feel..
     
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    The 2c-b seemed to almost completely overpower the usual speedy comedown.
     
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    radiometer bananadine addict Platinum Member & Advisor

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    Glad You liked it. I found this combo a tremendous disappointment.
     
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    I have enjoyed this combo in various permutations a few times, but once he didn't enjoy it very much! It must be a matter of timing!
     
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    I have searched back through previous posts and has found many fans of the combination of 2C-B and Methylone.

    Could any of these experienced SWIMmers please offer advice as to dosage and timing? SWIM's cavy & mate have much experience with 2C-I/Methylone and have squeaked their belief that 12mg. 2C-I followed one hour later by 125mg M1 is the perfect dose.

    SWIM's cavy and mate recently learned that 17mg 2C-B alone was unimpressive and 25mg was cold and impersonal, leaving SWIM to wonder about dose sensitivity and/or chemical purity. Also I would be interested if any learned SWIMmers' research shows a possible ratio between increased dosage/hallucinogenic effect and a reduction in the sensual aspects of 2C-B.
     
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  7. Alfa

    Alfa Productive Insomniac Staff Member Administrator

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    That does leave one wondering about purity of the 2C-B. I think it boils down to a matter of taste. If you compare it with MDMA - 2C-B combination, that caused part of the psychonauts to be enthousiastic about 2C-B first followed by MDMA and vice versa. Hell, SWIM switched opinion on that matter several times and even enjoyed MDMA -> 2C-B -> MDMA etc....
    More imput please!
     
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    If he's taking MDMA, SWIM almost always takes 2C-B later. One time, he slipped about 100-150mg or so of methylone in between the two. For some reason, it was four hours before the 2C-B came on - almost needless to say, this was an unusual wait for 2C-B to take effect. So, at about 4:30 in the morning, he suddenly got nauseous and then had typical 2C-B effects for a couple hours until he passed out from exhaustion.

    What a strange night! After this experience and one uninspiring attempt at trying 2C-C after methylone, I have never bothered to try any such combinations again. He'd be very tempted to experiment with 2C-D in this regards, but is jealously hoarding his small stash and has no intention of wasting it.
     
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    I find that the methylone / 2cc combo is a disappointment as well. Barely any effects from the 2cc during the methylone aftermath. 2cc simultaneous with 2ci however is a great way to come up on the latter faster.
    Anyways, I find that 2ci is pleasant to dose about 1-2 hours after the methylone. That way it kicks in on the way down and the methylone euphoria/empathogenesis is not overwhelmed as it can be by the more hallucinogenic effects of the 2CI if both are taken at the same time. Cannot comment on 2CB, but that might help.
     
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    Many thanks to SWIRadiometer - SWIR is one of the experienced SWIMmers that I was hoping to get a response from. SWINicaine would be another...

    Thank you - your advice regarding scales, calibration masses and such have proved invaluable advice in the past.

    And thanks to SWISnapper - excellent parallels drawn and logic seems sound. Much appreciated.
     
  11. oldman

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    2c-c is way to mild to expect it to duke out m1 when used as a chaser, but swio has had some good experiences taking the 2c-c first (as well as 2c-i) followed by m1 an hour or so after reaching the plateau. so this would be for him 2 hours after ingesting 2c-c or about 3 for the 2c-i. once while in vegas he took a very high dose of 2c-c by accident (capsule he meant to split between he and mrs swio). was around 80mgs. it was on the nauseating side while they were seeing a trippy erotic show. when he came out of there he was pretty sketchy and paranoid that security was watching him through all the cameras in the casino. the noise of the coins in the slots was driving him nuts too. people screaming. he went and saw the tigers behind the glass in the casinos and was still pretty shakin up. he usually loved 2c-c at 40mgs and never felt to sketchy on it but this was a heroic (and stupidly high) dose for him. he figures it was like 30-35mgs of 2ci would be. he usually takes 15-20. anyhow about 2.5 hours after ingesting the 2c-c he took 300mgs of m1 and hopped in a cab with mrs to go to a club across town. about 5mins into the ride he was hit with the most luxurious, pleasurable, warmth from within. he had to muster all he had to keep from having sex with mrs swio in the cab. he felt like his body was just melting inside, like chocolate. real nice. an hour later he was baseline, 2 hours after that in a limo going to another club he downed another 40mgs of 2c-c. he did get some rebound and mild euphoria again, 3 hours later he took another 40mgs 2c-c. not really anything but by now it was 5:30 in the morning and he had been drinking throughout the night. at 6:30am he took 2 ambien and crashed. awoke around 11:00 and amazingly didn't feel bad. in fact he ran 6 miles that afternoon.

    so a little off topic anyway, sorry but swio has not used 2c-b. but from what he's read 25mgs should've been felt. maybe the purity was off. swio not found many chems that can stand up to the power of m1. both on it's upward and downward ride. he thinks that the only reason he got a rebound from 2c-c that night in vegas was because of the massive dose he had done earlier.
     
  12. London_Bloke

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    I agree with the potency question. She obtained 2C-B from a completely different source and tried several dosages on her research cavies. 10mg could be felt as a mild "museum" dose, 15mg was a good bit better. Last night I found her cavy's limit - 30mg was too much. Threw up quite a bit, but no body load. Her cavy was too high to do anything of value, like molesting her mate. Once the peak passed SWIM added 125mg M1 and the evening was pure delight.

    So now I know 20-25mg 2C-B followed an hour or two by 125mg M1. The jury is still out - SWIM's cavy squeaks that she may prefer 12mg of 2C-I instead of the 2C-B, but SWIM told her cavy, "Patience, little guinea pig, this is why it's called research".