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Drug info - 4-AcO-DET Effects and Ratings Survey Results

Discussion in 'Tryptamines' started by illuminati boy, Apr 8, 2006.

  1. illuminati boy

    illuminati boy Gold Member

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    Attached should be a zipped file with 5 files in it that contain the data on 4-AcO-DET gathered from the recent survey project on largely unresearched compounds.

    General information about the survey project on largely unresearched compounds.

    This project consisted of posting 28 surveys for about 60 days at 6 different internet discussion boards. 25 of the surveys received at least one response in that time. There were a total of 701 responses to all of the surveys with 5-MeO-DPT receiving the fewest responses (2) and 2C-I receiving the most (123). 11 surveys received 25 or more responses and probably give a somewhat reliable overview of the compounds in question.
    There are 3 different types of surveys. The Phenethylamines, the Tryptamines, and the DOB-DFLY survey. The phenethylamine and tryptamine surveys are almost identically with 2 exceptions; the tryptamine surveys have an additional item labeled x01 and a freeform response at the end. The DOB-DFLY survey has numerous additional sections etc. due to it being a later addition. Despite these differences, each subsection should allow for apples to apples comparisons. The only real difference in the data might be a slightly higher skip rate on section 5 with regard to the phenethylamines, though looking at the actual data the difference appears to be minimal if any.

    What was looked at across all surveys was 1. What people thought of the compound overall, 2. What people thought about the general pleasurableness of the compound, 3. What people thought about the general stimulant/sedative tendencies of the compound, 4. What people reported in the way of ‘primary effects,’ 5. What people reported in the way of ‘side effects,’ and 6. The number of times people reported taking a given compound.

    For items 1, 2, & 3 a ‘score’ can be worked out.

    For the overall rating one can either calculate the % of persons that consider the compound ‘worthwhile’ by adding the number of persons reporting ‘B,’ ‘A,’ and ‘A+’ and dividing by the total number of persons answering that item; or one can calculate an ‘average rating’ by giving a score of 6 to every ‘A+,’ 5 to every ‘A,’ 4 to every ‘B,’ 3 to every ‘C,’ 2 to every ‘D,’ 1 to every ‘E,’ and 0 to every ‘F’ (the results then divided by the number of total respondents).

    For the overall pleasure direction one simply assigns a weighted score to the responses according to the value to the left (i.e. +3, +2, +1, 0, -1, -2, -3) and divides by the total number of responses. A net positive score indicates a compound that is reportedly more positive and a net negative score indicates a compound that is reportedly more negative. A score close to or at 0 indicates a compound that is not very particularly prone one way or another with regard to pleasurable experiences (it could have no discernable ‘push’ or it could be equally prone toward pleasurable or disconcerting experiences).

    The overall energy direction is calculated much the same as the overall pleasure direction, with the difference being that the results will show the overall tendency of the compound toward stimulation or sedation. If the net score is positive it indicates a trend toward stimulation, if the net score is negative it indicates a trend toward sedation. If the score is close to or at 0 it indicates that a compound is not particularly prone toward one direction or the other (this could mean neither stimulation nor sedation or it could indicate that people are more or less equally prone to the experience of either).

    Compound specific discussion.

    4-AcO-DET is a compound that has been around for some years. Closely related compounds have been the focus of some actual clinical research. There were only 10 responses to this survey, so bear that in mind when looking at the data. Additional information can be found in the ‘4-acetoxy-DET Primer’ by Toad. The Primer can be found either in The Entheogen Review Vol 10(No 3) Autumn 2001, or at Erowid.

    Looking at the data here, 90% of respondents considered the material ‘worthwhile.’

    The overall average pleasure score is +0.80 or about equal to ‘Pleasant / Mildly Elevated Mood.’

    The respondents generally reported that this is a noticeably stimulating compound with a stimulation score of +1.20 or about equivalent to ‘Slightly Stimulating.’

    The most commonly reported side-effects for this compound were general physical discomfort, muscle twitches, and anxiety; with 40% of those responding noting each. 20% of respondents checked the ‘No Appreciable Side Effects Whatsoever’ item.

    Like most all other compounds surveyed, the most frequently reported number of uses was 2-5 times (60%). Uses reported ranged between 2 and 50 times.

    There was the following freeform item:

    “sharp anxiety"

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