Please post info about 4-HO-MIPT here. Can anyone add information about: names / synonyms molecule dose duration side effects have there been any reported incidents with this compound? since when has this research chemical been available? legal status stability of the molecule / compound Experiences with 4-HO-MIPT should be posted here: 4-ho-mipt (miprocin) trip reports These documents about 4-HO-MIPT are in the file archive Also see this threads: 4-HO-MiPT (Miprocin) solubility... 4-HO-MiPT Effects and Ratings Survey Results Our members list varying dosage. Most list good effects around 18-20 mg 4-HO-MIPT. 12 - 15 mg 4-HO-MIPT seems a good beginners dose. Doses of 30 mg 4-HO-MIPT or higher are experienced as not pleasurable. The dose response curve of 4-HO-MIPT is steep at that level. Our members list a duration of 5 - 8 hours. __________________________________________________ __________________ Here is the TIHKAL entry: 4-HO-MIPT TRYPTAMINE, 4-HYDROXY-N-ISOPROPYL-N-METHYL; 4-INDOLOL, 3-[2-(ISOPROPYLMETHYLAMINO)ETHYL]; 4-HYDROXY-N-ISOPROPYL-N-METHYLTRYPTAMINE; 3-[2-(ISOPROPYLMETHYLAMINO)ETHYL]-4-INDOLOL DOSAGE : 12 - 25 mg, orally (as the indolol or the acetate) DURATION : 4 - 6 hrs QUALITATIVE COMMENTS : (with 9 mg, orally) "I am stuck just part way on. There is some retinal activity with my eyes closed. Maybe I am a little light-headed, a little starry. Nothing much." (with 12 mg, orally) "It was just an hour ago that I swallowed the capsule, and everything is happening. I was completely developed at 45 minutes. The imagery with my eyes closed is vivid. The music is exceptionally sensual. I notice a tendency to twitch but it doesn't bother me. Everything is rolling -- how can they allow an erotic piece like the Saint Saëns second piano concerto to ever appear in public, let alone over the radio? A very rapid decline between the third and fourth hour. A rich day for love, insights, fantasy and for retreating into one's mind. A rich day for discovery." (with 12 mg, orally) "I suspended the solids in water, and a drop of HCl put it into solution immediately. The first awareness was unmistakable at twenty minutes, and from there it was a rapid and noisy development ending at about an hour. But this lasted for only another 40 minutes, and then dropped off quite rapidly. The erotic was excellent, but there were few visuals and I had difficulty connecting fantasy to music. Good appetite afterwards, and I had no trouble getting to sleep." (with 15 mg acetate ester, orally) "An interesting mixture of intoxication and sedation, progressing to a very relaxed state with some motor incoordination. Just a little bit like alcohol or GHB. There was no drifting of thoughts nor any gut disturbance at any time, although I wasn't very hungry. Conversation was easy." (with 20 mg, orally) "Early signs (muscle sensations) were noticed in 10 minutes. In another 10 minutes a rapid heightening of all senses ensued, reaching a plateau in 40 minutes and beginning to decline in 3 hours with a return to near normal in 5-6 hours. The intensity of the experience is marked. At the plateau, communication (verbal) is difficult with intense alteration in the sense of time and distance. Multiple and overlapping wave forms occur with an extremely intense color alteration. Drifting in and out of the body is common with an increased sense of body processes, i.e., blood flow in vessels. Muscular sense is increased and a feeling of soaring in bodiless flight is experienced. A mild vertigo was felt with attempted walking but is not associated with nausea. Some anxiety was experienced initially, but could be interpreted as a reaction to the extremely powerful onset. A curious, probably idiosyncratic effect, was of possessing the essence of sexual power associated with being a large jungle cat. The idea was prominent for some time. Conservatively, this compound is at least twice as active as psilocin at comparable doses, in terms of plateau or peak effect. External stimuli, especially light, were distracting to the point of annoyance. Sounds can be seen, words explode into showers of bright points with eyes closed. Other eyes-closed imagery is prominent with patterns (in color); at times soaring clouds dominate the eyes-closed scenery. I cannot overemphasize the intensity of the experience. I would not want to go much higher than 20 milligrams (50 milligrams of psilocin is not as intense)." (with 30 mg acetate ester, orally) "It was as if I had downed a few martinis in a hurry -- except that there were eye-closed visuals in a lot of different colors, especially metallic greens. I had jaw clenching and a body tremor, reminding me of ecstasy except is was not in any way stimulated. I listened to music in front of a fireplace in a darkened room and I saw bright colorful unstructured patterns. Seven hours and I fell into an easy sleep and was fine the next day." EXTENSIONS AND COMMENTARY : This is a two-carbon homologue of psilocin, and as this latter chemical is orally active, it is not surprising that this is, as well. One direct comparison between the two materials, on widely separated days and at very high levels, indicated that 20 milligrams of 4-HO-MIPT was fully equivalent to 50 milligrams of psilocin in one report. And yet another report with 30 milligrams of the acetate ester, things were considerably more modest. At these higher levels, the onset was noted well within the first half hour.