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Experiences - 5-IAI (5-Iodo-2-Aminoindane) Trip Reports

Discussion in 'Research Chemicals' started by Terrapinzflyer, Apr 27, 2010.

  1. Terrapinzflyer

    Terrapinzflyer MDMA, RC & News Forums

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    5-IAI trip reports

    Please add your experiences with 5-IAI here. Please add dosage, route and duration to the top of your post like this:


    Info about this drug (other than experiences) should be discussed here: 5-IAI Drug info

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  2. Synchronium

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    Really? No one's tried this yet?

    There's so much hype over the rat discrimination study, I'd have thought at least someone would have given it a go by now.
     
  3. source

    source Palladium Member

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    I should imagine no-one has posted a TR yet because they are all still waiting patiently for their site to finally post that they have 5-IAI in stock. There's going to be a mad frenzy when the first retailer starts so their prices will probably shoot up

    It's like searching for an ice-cream van in the middle of winter at the moment, but i believe we're looking at another week - two weeks (unless any-one knows any different)

    :thumbsup:
     
  4. frinj

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    I had a dream that my cat was inquiring about obtaining 5-IAI and got the following e-mail from a foreign chemical manufacturer:

    "Have you purchased the prod of 5-Iodo-2-aminoindane, if not, we can offer the prod of N-(5-iodo-2,3-dihydro-1H-inden-2-yl)acetamide since the former is not stable."

    I'm no chemist and neither is my cat, but the phrase "not stable" does not sound good.

    Frinj
     
  5. Alfa

    Alfa Productive Insomniac Staff Member

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    That the molecule is not stable, means that the 5-Iodo-2-aminoindane will degrade into other compound(s). I'd be very interested to know what compound(s) that are.
    The other compounds may be harmless, toxic, illegal or psychoactive. So its not unimportant.
     
  6. Terrapinzflyer

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    considerring the source of the claim would take it with a boulder sized grain of salt. 5-iai is one of David Nichols creations, and a fair bit of research with it, and no such indications of instability that I have run across.
     
  7. Matoosh

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    SWIM apologises for the lack of real extensive detail in this report - he tested the substance while out at a rather awesome ravey-esque club night, living an ordinary life in an extraordinary way. He was with his girlfriend and her best friend at the time. Details are as follows:

    "SWIM Stats:
    Male
    21 years
    60kg
    6ft

    Previous drug experience
    MDMA, cocaine, weed, alcohol, mephedrone, methylone, MDAI

    SWIM's girlfriend stats:
    Female (well, yes, girlfriend)
    24 years
    67kg
    5ft 4in

    Previous drug experience
    Weed, alcohol, mephedrone, methylone, MDAI

    The 5IAI was pungest smelling, white crystalline. Tasted tangy.

    We made up some premade bombs, ranging 50mg to 100mg. We initially started on 100mg, and left it an hour to see what would happen. In the mean time we stood around outside, having a cigarette or two (don't usually smoke, evil stuff, but it makes me feel cool when out and about, so sod it). There were a couple of times when the girlfriend felt she might be getting something, but thought it may have just been a mild nicotine high. The friend also felt nothing.

    After an hour, bombed another 100mg. Again, stood around, getting a little frustrated, with nothing obvious happening. We played with lego. Another hour passed, girlfriend bombed 200mg, I did 100. The results were the same. But this point we had pretty much given up, and so decided to go off and dance a bit. Hours followed, we ended up back home by about 5am, and the lot of us decided to spend a morning on MDAI. We found the MDAI a much more enjoyable and obvious experience...

    The next night the girlfriend tried snoring 100mg of the substance, but again there were no obvious effects within the hour.

    In summary, highly disappointing. However, it may be that the threshold dose is higher than 200mg in one go... I remember reading one report about MDAI where the experimenter felt nothing, absolutely nothing, at 300mg. At 400mg however, they experience a rather nice high.

    More testing is needed."
     
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  8. Seaquake

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    What was the lab test? If it were a proper "lab test" it would reveal the compound name, which NRG2 is not, it is an obfuscation.

    It could be that what is currently being sold as 5-IAI and NRG-2 are the same thing but there is no way of knowing without proper analysis, pill testing kits don't count as proper analysis.

    For what it's worth swim's "5-iai" (inverted commas as he's not convinced it is) reacted exactly the same as another one of the new generation of things that also hides behind an obfuscated name, n-cat, on his full pill testing kit.
     
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  9. sid91

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    Yea sorry I should have made that clearer. The conclusion that it was NRG-2 was arrived at on the basis that the "5-IAI" trip report was similar to NRG-2 trip reports and that the "lab test" found no traces of actual 5-IAI in whatever SWIM had. I don't know if the test found out what the actual chemical was, just that no 5-IAI was found in it.
     
  10. TheSack

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    Male 36 around 71kg Drug experience....most chemicals ive every read about, and more
    Already taken today and every day for the past 4 years - script of 16mg orally daily subutex and 20mg Diazepam from 50 mg possible.

    Female 23 around 51kg - Drug experience - Heroin (non Iv) Mushrooms, MDMA (pure crystals) same as above for past 2.5 years.

    SACK and his G/F did 1g of MDAi and 5IAI on friday night we started with 50mg of 5IAI initially insuflated for illergic reaction identification...all ok.
    After Plenty research we decided to do the gram in 100mg dosages every 30 mins untill good effect. SACK felt after 25 mins mild MDMA (mandy) effect, SACK's G/F felt after 90 mins after insuflating 100 mg MDAi on top. SACK personally felt the MDAi (sparkle) to be very different from the Tan version so beleives this could be NRG-2 it was not NRG-1 as SACK finds this no stronger than coffee.
    After 2 hours and around 0.5 gram of each Chem (100% 5IAI) and (MDAi sparkle) (poss NRG-2). SACK and G/F felt amazingly horny and spent 3 hours engaging in sexual activity.
    In refelction the 5IAI is worth an experience, MDAi sparkle was not the same as the tan MDAi which SACK found to be similar to 5IAI but milder. Sex was good, SACK was aware of the definition of colours and had out of normal character thinking. SACK's G/F had many orgasm's and felt really horny for around 7 hours although it took her 2 hours to really feel the 5IAI. Both were very chatty and empathic with each other and the universe.

    Will try 6-APDB next w/k end with a side order of 5IAI.
    Will let you know.

    Have fun
     
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  11. BeatPoet

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    SWIM is aware that very few vendors have this in stock at the moment, but he did find one who curiously was selling it at a "discount" which made SWIM suspicious to say the least. Having said that SWIM purchased 1g as it was so cheap.

    Substance came with no markings apart from "Not for human consumption". Bad first impression. Substance appears pure white and has a sweet, soapy kind of smell as was noted by another poster earlier in the thread. Not unpleasant.

    SWIM measured 1mg for an allergy test. Taste was slightly salty. No effects were noted apart from a noticeable numbing of the tongue where it had been placed. This numbing sensation subsided into a kind of burnt tongue feeling, but was gone after a few hours.

    Having read some other posts SWIM thinks this may be NRG-2, but as no one even knows what this is yet, SWIM is thinking that binning is the best option.
     
  12. dr ACE

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    dose'nt sound like a very interesting chemical
     
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    SWIM doesn't think anyone yet has had any real 5-IAI. More like dodgy vendors getting rid of anything they have as 5-IAI. Swim got something that claimed to be 5-IAI and it smelled exactly the same as some 4-FMC he had recieved long ago before the ban.
     
  14. Durd1e

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    I won't post a detailed report this time as SWIM's experience was some months ago but I will next time.

    SWIM found 5IAI very interesting - only mild stimulation, mild euphoria and relatively short lasting BUT the empathy was quite something. Really, it was way above anything he has gotten from anything other than MDMA and actually more than any of his recent MDMA experiences (he has been taking MD since 2000). It also seemed to last longer tha any of the other effects.

    It is also worth noting that there was zero hangover of any description. ZERO.
     
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    SWIM said it arrived today, it is white and clumpy, low odur and little taste. SWIM dabbled a little on tongue for alergy test and felt slighlty happier and chattier in about 5 mins. SWIM has not tried more though and SWIM will give a more detailed report later this week (though probably not as detailed as most as silly SWIM has no 0.1g scales). SWIM is not sure if SWIM should administer orally or insufflation?
     
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    Oral ROA is ALWAYS preferable with a new chem. Insnuffulation may prove dangerous yet, stick with Oral.
     
  17. mynemesis

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    swim got 5-IAI in post today. Seems ok!
    small ammount, bombed, gave mild euphoria followed by chatty relaxed evening. On the whole very pleasant.:)
     
  18. Djjism

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    SWIM said what he ordered was most likely not 5-iai. SWIM said it was a white, clumpy, odourless powder which did nothing for his plants. SWIM wonders if he can take the retailer to court via the Sale of Goods Act 1979 re: "...if you have bought something on the basis of the seller’s description or a sample, you should expect the item to conform exactly to that description or sample. If it does not, you have the right to reject the goods, demand a full refund and possibly claim damages. This is still the case even where you have selected or examined the items for yourself before buying them". SWIM believes he has a good case and presumes he just needs the product lab tested to prove what it is. SWIM thinks other persons who have been scammed by retailers should also look into taking their case to court.
     
  19. Phenoxide

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    If the distributor is UK based then certainly misrepresentating products violates a number of consumer laws. The problem is in bringing a case SWIY would have to provide some explanation of what the product was intended for, and why they believe it to be misrepresented. Since these chemicals are typically sold for research purposes, unless SWIY can demonstrate ties to legitimate research, the vendor could argue the product was purchased under false pretences.

    As SWIY says, it would need to be lab tested to prove misrepresentation. If one adds up the cost of getting this done and the time and effort required to follow it through, the compensation is unlikely to be worthwhile. It may also attract unwanted legal attention as anything presented in the case is on the record.

    If the vendor is a decent human being they will offer to refund or replace the product no questions asked. If not, probably best to chalk it up to experience and write it off. There will come a time when some of the UK vendors are taken to task for their irresponsible practices, but it is probably for the best not to make a one SWIM crusade of it.
     
  20. mrsJackson

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    SWIM recieved a special delivery of allegedly 5-iai today. The label states the usual...chemical name and structure and not for human consumption. This was bought from a reputable internet vendor who she purchased Mephedrone from about a year ago which was the best swim ever had both before and after the ban. It is a very clean looking white powder with such small crystals that it makes it look like it has glitter in it. There is no smell and very little taste.....swim and friend plan to experiment with this exciting new chemical at the weekend however is a little anxious that still no one seems to think that they have had the REAL 5iai....swim has read all literature available on this chemical so far and plans to ingest at hourly intervals however is not 100% sure on what dosage to use as yet......any educated guesses?????