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Dose - ABG 60 extended release morphine pill

Discussion in 'Morphine' started by socalpurp, Jul 4, 2012.

  1. socalpurp

    socalpurp Silver Member

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    Hey everyone. My buddy gave AFOAF a 60mg 'ABG 60' extended release morphine sulfate pill. He hasn't used opiates in at LEAST 3 months. Maybe even 5 months. He has lost track.

    Anways, he's wondering would this pill even hit him? Should he start with half? He knows that this pill is extended release so should he attempt to get rid of the extended release part if possible? But mainly, will it even HIT HIM? He used to use maybe 15-25 mgs of hydrocodene every couple weeks. Sometimes 10-15 mgs of oxycodene, but this was over 3 months ago. His tolerance should be non existant. But he is unfamiliar with morphine and its affects. Hopefully someone can help him out here.

    Oh ya, he's also wondering if it is possible to snort this pill considering the fact that it is extended release? he is aware that morphine has a shitty oral bioavailability
     
  2. baZING

    baZING

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    Unfortunately, no one here will know for sure if this will "hit you." The best I can tell you about that is that if it's been three months since you've last used, chances are your tolerance is pretty low as you've said. 60mg of morphine is by no means a small dose, so you definitely need to use caution with using this. I'm merely repeating, though, as you seem to be well aware of that.

    I'm not familiar with this brand of generic morphine, but I've looked up a few things. I know this is not particularly helpful but I think you are going to have to do some additional research on these. I've done some for you, and it's really hard to figure out if the ABGs will gel or not when added to water. I know you're not asking about IV, but sometimes the ER tablets that do gel up will do so even if you try to snort them. So, basically what I'm saying is I read a ton for you and even I still can't quite figure out if these will gel or not and if they're suitable for snorting. You are right that in terms of getting high, oral morphine is pretty much useless. All that said, it appears that this generic of morphine can be snorted.

    My advice is to do some reading on here and google and see what else you can find. Based on what I've read so far, I think you should be pretty successful in snorting these. Because it's not an ER that has the "beads" I would think all you need to do is take off the coating and crush it as finely as possible, then you should be good to go.

    As for dose, however, I wouldn't even start with half. A quarter, maybe a third. Remember with opiates you can always add, but never subtract. I have little doubt that if it's been that long since you've done anything it will "hit you," especially given the fact it doesn't sound like you had a steep addiction or anything to begin with.

    As for being "unfamiliar with morphine and its effects," if you've done any opiate before you pretty much know what to expect. The big difference with morphine is that it is a natural opiate, and natural opiates tend to release more histamines than synthetics like oxy- and hydrocodone and thus may cause more itching. If you find this, you can take a benadryl to counteract those effects. Be careful if you do, though, as benadryl may potentiate the effects of opiates... another reason to start with a low dose. Otherwise, the effects of morphine are quite similar to what you already have experience with.

    Anyway, I hope that helps some and feel free to ask anything else if you need.
     
  3. socalpurp

    socalpurp Silver Member

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    Thanks baZING, that was exactly what I was needed to know and I appreciate you doing some research for me. Cheers.
     
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