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Experiences - AM-2201 Experiences

Discussion in 'Cannabinoids' started by jWilson3585, Dec 6, 2010.

  1. jWilson3585

    jWilson3585 Silver Member

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    After Aladdin came come on his magic carpet, he saw that someone left a package containing 2 grams of AM-2201. He smoked about 2mg on a cigarette and he felt the effects within seconds. The high came over him at a very pleasant and evenly paced manor, reaching the peak about 5 mins after initial ingestion. Over a year ago Aladdin asked the genie for some JWH018 and he thought it was the closest thing to THC ever. He's been smokin JWH018 daily ever since, at least until now. In Aladdins mind, AM 2201 is much more equal and natural feeling that lasted about 90 mins with a balanced comedown and no groggy hangover effects. There is and even body stone/psychedelic mixture in the high for him. He also only had to smoke 2mg as opposed to the 10-15mg of JWH018.

    Noted AM-2201 Effects:
    Body Stone
    Mild Visual Distortions (trees look weird in wind etc.)
    Munchies
    Dry Mouth
    Slight Edginess/Anxiety (normally associated with cannibinoids.)
     
  2. jWilson3585

    jWilson3585 Silver Member

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    Re: AM-2201 Expeirences

    One week later, Aladdin has a very different view on AM-2201. It's a super potent psychedelic with hallucinogenic properties. Aladdin has smoked 2 Grams of pure AM-2201 in the past week with his roommate. The genie believes that is way too much, is the genie mistaken?
     
  3. MD426

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    Re: AM-2201 Expeirences

    The genie and Aladdin's tolerance has probably built up quickly. Also AM-2201 seems to have a shorter duration than JWH-018 which would lead to more re dosing if used continuously. 1g per person in one week does seem to be excessive. Using JWH-073 (which is much less potent and shorter duration), my hedgehog used 2 grams in about a month, using it about every day, not all day though.
     
  4. MDtrippin

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    Re: AM-2201 Expeirences

    I found this report on a disk someone had left behind at the coffee shop:

     
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  5. funkyfish77

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    Am-2201 overdose
    Age 33
    Male
    Weight 194
    Height 6'
    Dose 70mgs vaped

    Swim has been researching this chemical for over a month now
    With good experiences . Until now

    The setting was swims living area*

    0:00 swim vaped 70 mgs*
    0:02 warm sensation in joints and hip area
    0:04 entire body on fire now conciseness is starting to fade swims wife*
    Came into the room and new *instantly swim was in trouble . Pulse was 130+
    0:05 swim went down started vomiting an convulsing on the floor.
    From here on out swim has no idea of time it felt like it only lasted about
    10 mins or so .
    Severe pain corsed thought swims body with tremendous pressure on head*
    Shoulders and chest hard to breathe . Swims vision was not there just very bright*
    Light that seemed very far away but very near at the same time .
    Swims wife reported swim wanting her turn off the lights but no lights were on
    Swim starts to get scared every thing seems to be fading away swims mind seems
    To be shutting down . Swim could not remember his wife or daughters name .
    Swim starts seeing visions of people flashing before his eyes ( swim now knows*
    Those people were his family and friends ) not knowing what was going on swim*
    Begged for his life and then nothing the switch turned off no more pain no more
    Thoughts no nothing . The next thing I remember was my daughter calling my*
    Name I opened my eye I was laying on the floor striped down to my boxers
    With my wife over me doing CPR she is a nurse . I thank god for*Her being there
    *or I would not be here to share my report .*
    This exepeiance has left swim very glad to be alive . Iam still recovering from the*
    Mental side of this . Has left swim very numb to the world except for uncontrollable crying over this . Swim has given up on RC's altogether .
    Swim is going to have pics taken of brain and reviewed for any permanent*
    Damage . Mental stability seems to be slowly getting better but there still*
    Seem to be holes in my brain . ( that's what it feels like ) *

    If swimmers insist on vaping pleas use scales and take it slow swim would*
    Not want to see any swimmers out there get hurt .
     
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  6. Overwatch9

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    There are trip reports posted within this forum, as well as other sources on the Internet, that note an effective dose for AM-2201 starts at 2mg and a 4mg vaped dose is described as "too high". SWIM is curious to know why SWIY felt 70mg was a decent entry dose? Did SWIY arrive at this dosage based upon your JWH-018 dose while factoring tolerance?
     
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  7. funkyfish77

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    Swim has very high tolerance swim has vaped 150 mg of jwh-018 in a sitting . There are
    Psychedelic effect at larger doses . Swim does not recommend swimmers to try.
    Am-2201 has been very inconsistent from several suppliers ranging from lite yellow to dark yellow . Some will not dissolve in acetone some will . Swim has come to the conclusion that it was a impurity not am-2201 that affected swim . Swim has done 60 mgs before without the severe side affects . I have been working on a few samples of the undissolved material . Do any swimmer know were I can send my samples to be analyzed.

    funkyfish77 added 2 Minutes and 21 Seconds later...

    P.S. Swim has been researching am-2201 for 3 months now so I'm not new to this rc
     
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  8. joejohanssen

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    1/9/2016 while scavenging for supplements in the northern quadrant of what used to be the midwest I found this carved into a turtle shell.
    "After making my own blend using am-2201 I quickly found how frighteningly fast I have built a tolerance to it. The joints got so big that I started using a corncob. One especially boring night I had the urge to explore the true effects of am-2201. So, I used the tip of one of my wifes earrings and tried to get the most minimal amount that I could. I sprinkled it into a bowlful of some 17mg/g homemade am-2201 blend which in itself gets pretty weak pretty fast. After smoking it I of course felt typical mild OD symptoms, really scary at first. I thought I was going to have a heart attack but then I felt quite comfortable after a few minutes. By the time I started getting comfortable it was already gone, re-dose would soon follow. That was three days ago. Dosage has increased considerably since then. Yesterday, I smoked a little over my tolerance and felt as I was on an acid trip, I had to lay down. I dont know exactly how I feel about perpetuating this cycle or where It will lead me but, I hope someone tells me what to mix with am-2201 to make it last longer, before its too late." I thought to myself, this turtle must have been delicious.
     
  9. Space Dragon Killah

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    Squirrel smokes am-2201 on a regular basis, usually after work to shift moods. She enjoys it much like weed, but from time to time she finds that it makes her feel tired. It might be the effects of the long work day, but after work is when she really wants to use her energy to feel good. Is it possible that it is the mental effects of the drug that is overwhelming her, or is it a physical thing that forces her to have to lay down and chill? Sometimes she finds am-2201 to be mentally exhausting since it forces her to deal with a range of suppressed thoughts. Is that why she feels the need to take a nap?
     
  10. abcd1234

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    Swim recently purchased one gram of AM 2201. Being experienced in vaping pure JWH 018 and 073 from the same vendor with excellent results, swim decided to try the new legal alternative. The chemical swim received was a slightly yellow tint but close to white. It was crystally unlike the JWH's swim had bought in the past. Under the light it shimmers and looks like shards and finely ground crystal. Also, swim detected a very strong chemical odor that swim found hard to describe but would say is close to Lysol or permanent markers. It was very different than the mothball or chemical odor from JWH. Upon vaporizing, swim noticed a terrible taste, strong and bitter which was consistent with the smell of the chemical. It made swims tongue tingle and burned slightly. The chemical got swim very high for about 20 minutes, with 10 to 20 minutes of fade off. Swim was very very disappointed. Swim generally stayed high for 1 hour from JWH 018 with a half hour decrease, and slightly less with JWH 073, but this AM 2201 was noticeably shorter, causing swim to constantly redose in order to sustain a high for an hour or two. Swim has a sneaking suspicion he got a bad batch because if this is really how AM 2201 is, swim finds it to be a very disappointing RC. Does anyone know of anyone who has had similar experiences? Swim is debating trying AM 2201 from a different vendor, but is afraid of wasting more money
     
  11. Khariz

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    Hmm, that actually sounds like the smell, taste, sensation, and bur of what happens when one tries to vaporize cathinones/beta-ketones like mephedrone, and the length of the high seems about correct too, though it would have been much "speedier" than a regular cannabinoid high.

    The color and smell doesn't sound right to my kitty.
     
  12. MrGuy

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    SWIM has recently come into some AM-2201 and a gram scale accurate to 0.001g
    (1mg). The manufacturer claims the quality of this product at 99% purity. The color
    of SWIMs crystalline powder is an off white, very slightly yellowish (barely
    perceptible), darker than a piece of printer paper, and is without smell. He would
    also like to mention that the shadows in the "cracks" of the powder are orangish
    yellow.

    After doing quite a bit of research, SWIM has decided it would be best to do an
    introductory dose much lower than the suggested dose of 1-2mg...just in case.
    Using tweezers, he used the flat side of one of the ends of tweezers and drops the
    powder in the scale bowl (which he had calibrated three times in a row prior). The
    pile he says was more of a fine dust than a pile, almost as if there had been a gram in
    the bowl but was then poured out and the residual dust was still on it. His scale
    measured 0.000g -- knowing the scale, he figures the quantity was probably
    somewhere between 250 - 500 micrograms.

    1st USE:

    Dose:
    - Approximately 250 - 500 micrograms.
    - 1 full inhale with 20 second hold.

    Recent chemicals used:
    - A "Spice" knockoff over 14 hours previously (possible slight residual).
    - 1 mug of coffee 1 hour prior.

    Route of ingestion:
    - Cleaned water bong, bowl has been blow torched to rid it of any chemicals.
    - AM-2201 on top of cigarette ash.

    NOTE
    :
    This is the first powder RC SWIM has used, all other experiences have been the
    leafy store bought stuff.

    +1 Minute
    Feeling onset like any other cannabinoid.
    +3 Minute
    Onset getting very intense, feelings of CNS from head to toe beginning to turn to fire.
    Xerostomia setting in.
    +5 Minute
    CNS fire subsides, catatonia setting in (standing at this point).
    +10 Minute
    Fully catatonic, slowly turning counter-clockwise (while standing).
    +15(?) Minute
    Extremely disassociated with body, reality, and time and space. SWIMs body only
    responding to direction through sheer will and with quite a bit of lag time.
    +20(?) Minute
    End of peak. Gains control of body, begins experimentation. Walks to kitchen,
    turns on light, and is shocked by the feeling of his eyes adjusting. SWIM describes
    this feeling like he had been electrically shocked in a pleasant way. Begins to eat a
    granola bar; taste is greatly enhanced. Mouth completely dissociated with face, and
    taste disassociated with mouth. Very slowly eats granola bar (savoring it) for five
    minutes to experience the full spectrum of its taste.
    +30 Minute
    Watches TV, notes colors are very vibrant. Ideas begin to flood SWIM, well thought
    out ideas.
    +1 Hour
    SWIM notes that while not high in body whatsoever, his perception is still about 25%
    affected.
    +2 Hour
    Nearly sober, SWIM still has quite a bit of residual.
    +3 Hour
    Sober, very little residual, reaction time back to normal, good enough to drive.

    Afterthoughts:
    Overall, SWIM says it was one of the best cannabinoid experiences he's ever had.
    Compared to all the store bought Spice, K2, or whatever blends are available, the
    feeling was unbelievable clean and uniform. By this, SWIM means to say that he feels
    like the blends pull him in multiple directions at once which can cause him nausea.
    With AM-2201, SWIM feels as though the chemical is pushing him in one and only
    one direction, and is very predictable. SWIM also notes that there was very little smoke
    which wasn't harsh at all. Additionally, SWIMs friend said it smelled a little like a burned
    electrical smell like you get from crack.

    SWIM notes zero fear, zero nausea, and an overall mild, happy euphoria throughout.
    After return to baseline, SWIM notes that euphoria was still left over, even after 5
    hours. He also noticed that he was slightly jumpy at this five hour mark.

    CAUTION:
    Perhaps it is the quality of his product, or his method of ingestion, SWIM doesn't
    really know, but considering the minute quantity he consumed vs the intensity of his
    experience, he cautions anyone doing this to get a very accurate and very sensitive
    scale. SWIM can't imagine how mindbogglingly powerful AM-2201 could be at
    1mg, let alone 2, or for that matter, the poor soul who tried 70mg!!!

    SWIM urges you to please, for your sanity, for your very life,
    BE CAREFUL WITH THIS STUFF!!!
    DO NOT EYEBALL!!!

    Potent is BEYOND an understatement here.
     
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  13. funkyfish77

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    The 70 mg dose was not a intro dose 3months of research went into that . Swim thinks the prob with am-2201 is that manufacturing and suppliers are cut the product with unknown substances . Swim has heard that some swimmers have gotten it to dissolve in everclear . Swim has never been able to get am-2201 to dissolve in everclear . And even in acetone there are times that it will not dissolve completely . Eather way swim recommends good mg scales and start with a very low dose .
     
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  14. MrGuy

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    My mistake. Although, considering the potency I've experienced with quantities less
    than 1mg, it really doesn't surprise me that 70mg may kill you, even with high
    tolerances. I haven't looked it up before, but I wonder what the lethal cannabinoid
    dosage is, and where AM-2201 would fall within this.
     
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    SWIM put 312 mg of AM-2201 into 125ml of slightly warmed Everclear and 90% disolved instantly. The other 10% disolved within three minutes with some manual agitation. Much faster than compared to several JWH compounds from various vendors. The Everclear was warmed by placing it, within a sealed glass container, into boiling water (removed from heat source) for roughly two minutes.
     
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    Do u know the temp swim never got it above 120F ?

    funkyfish77 added 5 Minutes and 12 Seconds later...

    Swim got about 75 to 80% dissolved no more . Swim has noticed that clear crystalline flacks are left. Swim has poured off the liquid and dried separate . Swim vapid some of both only 1 done the job .
     
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    SWIM said he was unsure what temperature it reached and admitted he was uncertain if heating the Everclear was really necessary for completely dissolving the compound. He limited the amount of time the small 125ml glass "mason" style jar was exposed to heat. Left too long the vapor expansion would bow the flat metal lid outward. It seems there is a disparity between the compounds that SWIM had and that SWIY had.
     
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    My tiger statue came to life and asked me, in a dream, to ask on here if anyone had received AM-2201 that could be vaporised off foil without a burning sensation/very harsh vapour that irritated the mouth and eyes?

    The reason being that the tiger's eldest cub received some AM-2201 that is a very light champagne colour, crystal-like powder. When smoked off foil the cub noticed it turned to a red liquid and the vapor was extremely harsh. It was definitely a cannibinoid high though, similar to JWH-018 but with a more gradual come up. The cub thought this might be because the AM-2201 was actually combusting rather than vaporising. Or perhaps an impurity? The cub trusts this vendor though, they have a lot of customers and a good reputation in the dream jungle.

    Yeah, I have strange dreams. What should I tell the cub when I go to sleep tonight?

    justwannaread added 8 Minutes and 55 Seconds later...

    Oh, I just dropped off for a few minutes (I stayed up all night playing video games).

    The tiger cub came to me in a dream and mentioned that he was continuing to consume the AM-2201 even though it was painful and uncomfortable to inhale the vapor, because the effects were fantastic. He just took tiny puffs. He was becoming a bit paranoid that maybe this harshness was abnormal and indicative of a serious impurity and he should stop dosing immediately. But the cub had been eating all the different fruits of the dreamland drug jungle since he could walk so knows just to chill out :D
     
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  19. Overwatch9

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    Not to defer your Tiger statue's question, but he might want to consider oral dosing AM-2201 via the 2.5mg per 1ml Everclear method. SWIM says that oral doses of 2201 pack the same high as the rough vaping delivers but without any of the pain and misery.
     
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  20. MrGuy

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    My friend tells me that his batch of AM-2201 has zero harshness and smells/tastes a bit like the smell from an electrical fire...and is ungodly, horrifyingly, strong!