Drug info - Am-dipt

Discussion in 'Tryptamines' started by snapper, Oct 9, 2005.

  1. snapper

    snapper Gold Member

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    This product ( Alpha methyl diisopropyl tryptamine ) popped up some
    years back, but never heard any reports on
    it - anyone know if it was active ?

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  2. dclacomb

    dclacomb Silver Member

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    Just speaking from a chemical hunch, it looks like it would be
    active. I can't think of any examples where methylating the alpha
    position destroys the molecules activity. In the case of
    tryptamine it takes it from something that doean't do anything to a
    long lasting, powerful psychedelic, AMT.
     
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    Nagognog2 Iridium Member

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    Apparently, though, turning that into an N-CH3 (a-N-methyl) has the opposite effect and drops the potency by approx. a factor of 10. I'd be curious as well regards the nature of a-methyl-DiPT. Where is fastandbulbous? I bet he'd know!
     
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    snapper Gold Member

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    SWIM mentioned that it was inactive - the source was a major one at the
    time and had always had legitimate products in the past, though SWIM
    never had a GC or NMR done to confirm chemical identity. Attempts with
    100 + mg oral, 25 mg insufflated, and equivalent smoke yielded no
    activity.
    My suspicion is that the isopropyl groups could, along with the methyl
    group adjacent to it, be too sterically hindered to bind, hence the loss of
    activity. Also, the fact that it never showed up on anyone's list again
    argued against potency. Who knows, though ? That's why I was hoping
    someone around here might have some insight, since I know that
    they were not the only one to sample this material....

    Snapper
     
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    cyferman Newbie

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    sorry to bump an old thread but as AMT has recently become more obviously available in the uk market recently, it occured to me: This may indeed hinder its growth as a skeletal structure for other possibly more profound chemicals. My thinking was in that if the alpha methyl group makes it inapplicable to current uk legislation, surely this would mean any alpha methylated tryptamine would also be inapplicable?
    Obviously as you have already pointed out as regards to N-substituted variants they may suffer activity from steric hinderance, but what about ring substituted variants, eg: (4HO-AMT, MDO-AMT, AM-I-T, TM-AMT etc etc etc)?
    Obviously if too many idiots start buying this stuff from shady plant food sellers online and as a result start dying like flies (obviously not reading about the MAO activity or just by taking too fucking much) then we may not even witness the birth of such chemicals, and this would be a terrible shame, even for the people that wanted to make money it would make sense to hold back until they had more shit to distribute?
    I just dont wanna see this over before it even properly started
     
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