Amanitas and Urine, Cultiavation

Discussion in 'Amanita' started by Chaote, May 9, 2005.

  1. Chaote

    Chaote Newbie

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    Ive been reading the info about amanitas here and ust recently learned this interesting fact and thought it would be goof on the forum, after taking amanitas it is good to drink your own urine because it contains alot of alkaloids it also increases your chance of a good trip. but this depends on how far your willing to tkae it
     
  2. TranceAddict

    TranceAddict Silver Member

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    yea i've known this for a while. a lot of indians have done this, not only with amanita muscaria but other substances.



    a little too nasty on my part if you ask me
     
  3. transit

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    I have heard the same thing for mescaline
    with peyote and trichocereus cacti such as san pedro. </span>It is interesting how our cultural biases
    become obvious in response to such ideas.
    </span>Drinking urine is totally acceptable in some circumstances in some
    cultures. </span>Apparently urine is generally entirely
    sterile.</span>
     
  4. uqlfy

    uqlfy Newbie

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    Ive done some pretty f***ked things to get high but man that is
    gross. I guess though that some of our cultural norms seem pretty weird
    to others.
     
  5. Softrat

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    Just cause the Siberians drink their urine after eating the psychoactive aminitas does not mean they necessarily find it pleasent or desirable.


    Thats said you should be able to get pleanty high on the psychoactive amanitas with otu having to drink your pee.


    I ate Amanita pantherina just last night and did not need to drink my pee. I still had a good time.[​IMG]
     
  6. PenguinPhreak

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    It is actually safer to take Amanitas by drinking the urine of someone
    who has taken it than actually taking the mushrooms themselves.
     
  7. sands of time

    sands of time Gold Member

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    Urine really isn't harmful, but still, it wasn't ment to drink!
     
  8. Alfa

    Alfa Productive Insomniac Staff Member Administrator

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    By drinking urine instead of consuming the mushroom itself, the liver of the animal (Deer in siberia)which has eaten the amanita mushroom,filters the toxic ibotenic acid out.
     
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    Wow... That's quite a concept Alfa. I wonder who was the first to try this though?! I would rather take the damn things instead of drinking the urine though lol.
     
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    Alfa, is there another way to neutralize the ibotenic acid besides filtering
    it through a liver?
     
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    enquirewithin Gold Member

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    As I read it, it was poor Siberians who drank the urine of more wealthy people who could afford to buy or store the mushrooms. I think it was by necessity but not choice. I think this was reported by Gordon Wasson.


    Has anyone eaten Amanita Muscaria (Flyagaric)or Amanita Pantherina (Panther Cap) with sucess? Jonathan Ott cliams that these Amanitas (not the deledly white ones) can have "rapturous" effects.
     
  12. BrugmansiaBrujo

    BrugmansiaBrujo Titanium Member

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    Eaten with sucess? Yes, Amanita Muscaria wild crafted in Finland,
    definitely! It's not like psilocybin mushrooms at all
    though. But it is very interesting. Things (including yourself or
    parts of yourself) will look or seem to be either really small, or
    really big. Many other strange visual and emotional
    effects. Your feet will sweat, and the sweat will smell like the
    mushrooms. I think they taste pretty good.



    Also you can smoke the red skins mixed with cannabis for an interesting effect, but not as strong as eating them.
     
  13. Phungushead

    Phungushead Twisted Depiction Staff Member Administrator

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    Drying amanitas at a temperature around 180°F will convert ibotenic
    acid (bad) into muscimol (good)... that sounds a lot less nasty than
    drinking liver-filtered piss if you ask me.
     
  14. enigmatic

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    I have taken about one big cap and a half in combination with 2 bowls
    of mj, and I was gone. I love the things, but the only place that I
    know has them are online vendors. I don't have the money to buy them
    all the time. They were good though. I would recommend them as well.
    Does anyone know if they are difficult to grow?
     
  15. Phungushead

    Phungushead Twisted Depiction Staff Member Administrator

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    Amanita cultivation is pretty much impossible (indoors), as they need
    to grow by certain kinds of trees (fir trees, I think)... I guess if
    you wanted to (and live in the right climate) you could crush up a
    mature (spore-producing) mushroom or two and mix that into the dirt by
    some host trees. There's been success with this method, but again
    it has to be the right climate.
     
  16. Emperiorjack

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    Is it possible to overdose on amanitas? Could your make a tincture out of this mushroom?
     
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    I've heard of making tinctures out of amanita before... since the
    active ingredients are water soluble, you don't want a big
    concentration of alcohol (40% would probably be good)... just chop up
    the shrooms into small pieces, put them in a jar or whatever, pour your
    alcohol over the top, and let it sit for a few weeks and strain out the
    mushroom chunks.

    Anyway, it is very possible to overdose on amanita... I don't really
    know what is considered a "fatal dose" (I've heard that 10 caps will
    kill you, but I don't know how true that is), but they can cause a lot
    of liver damage if you overdo it. Because of potency variations,
    start with like 1 or 2 small caps to be safe.
     
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  18. Dexy Mcfukfuk

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    I wonder who decided to one day drink the urine of a elk, that would
    e a rather strange guy, and then after drinking some elks urine,
    which he probably did regularly, suddenly he tripped face, well as
    much as u can trip on amanitas.

    sillly ol' pee drinkers



    but i guess the idea is no all that gross, i mean i wouldnt be too
    comfortable doing this, btu that is just due to society normas ive
    grown up on, on the way out urine is absolutley sanitary, at least i
    think it is.

    Man i use too many commas.
     
  19. RoboCop

    RoboCop Platinum Member & Advisor

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    I came across a few anamita muscaria grow kits being sold by online vendors. It'd be very cool to be able to grow these, and it would look really cool to have in your house/room.
     
  20. jaguarangel

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    So far, mycologists say they have never seen cultivation. They grow under
    pine trees and maybe some new discovery has been made. I would love to
    know if you are successful. Do they have a pine tree growing in the kit?
    Amanitas have a mycorrizal relationship with pine trees.