Drug info - Benzylpiperazine (BZP) Drug Info

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  1. Alfa

    Alfa Productive Insomniac Staff Member Administrator

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    Please post info about BZP here.

    Can anyone add information about:
    • names / synonyms
    • molecule
    • dose
    • duration
    • side effects
    • legal status
    • have there been any reported incidents with this compound?
    • since when has this research chemical been available?
    • stability of the molecule / compound

    Names: BZP

    Experiences with BZP should be discussed here: BZP experiences
    These documents about BZP are in the file archive
    BZP pics
    Research Chemicals Index - Phenethylamines
    Research Chemicals Index - Tryptamines
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    New Zealand Takes Aim at Ammo


    April 25, 2005

    The New Zealand Food Safety Authority wants to recall the herbal energy drink called "Ammo," described as the most powerful energy drink on the market. The agency says the drink contains the legal high benzylpiperazine, which is not permitted in food in New Zealand. It is a controlled substance in the United States.


    The authority is worried that children and adults may buy the fizzy drink at dairies and convenience stores without realising it contains BZP, the primary "party pill" ingredient. Associate New Zealand Health Minister Jim Anderton described the drink as "irresponsible."


    "People are pushing the envelope to way out further than many New Zealanders would be comfortable with," he said.


    Social Tonics Association of New Zealand (STANZ) said the case underlined the need for "sensible" regulation of the industry. "Clearly some legal controls are required," STANZ chairman Matt Bowden said in a statement.


    Bowden said that while these products were safe when used as directed by adults, they needed to be behind shop counters and away from children.


    Though Ammo the drink doesn't appear to be widely circulated in the U.S., BZP is on the Justice Department's "Drugs of Concern" list because of its "amphetamine-like stimulant effects."


    "BZP is often taken in combination with other noncontrolled substances in order to enhance its spectrum of effects and has been promoted to the youth population as a substitute for MDMA at raves (all-night dance parties)," the DOJ said on its Web site..


    Since 2000, there have been 83 cases involving the seizure of 18,000 BZP tablets and over 600,000 grams of powder, DOJ said. Seizures involving the combination of BZP and other noncontrolled substances included over 55,000 tablets and over 80 grams of powder. Illicit distributions occur through smuggling of bulk powder through drug trafficking organizations with connections to overseas sources of supply. The bulk powder is then processed into capsule, tablet, or pill form and distributed through organized networks.


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  2. snapper

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    Hmm. If BZP is that underground, might as well just sell meth instead.
    Better IMHO. Odd they don't just make it themselves, given how easy it is.
    BZP does have some special entactogenic properties all its own however,
    which people have not appreciated by many. BZP, 5meoDIPT, DPT and
    some type of GHB is one of the most sexually conducive and
    stimulating combinations I have ever tried. The only problem is the
    peripheral vasoconstriction of the BZP, which could concievably be
    counteracted by viagra, but has not been a big problem for SWIM.
    Note that viagra with any other drug could be dangerous for some, so
    proceed at your own risk. Most probably don't need to go there...
    Snapper
     
  3. JewishNazi

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    I agree that such a product of 'Ammo' is a step in the wrong direction. STANZ and Co. are having enough trouble trying to keep BZP-containing pills legal as it is without somebody doing doing this
     
  4. Alfa

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    Dose of BZP: 100 mg.
    Duration: 6-8 hours
    Effects:
    • increased euphoria & alertness
    • Increased sociability
    • cardiovascular effects - increased heart rate and blood pressure
    • Increased body temperature
    • reduced appetite
    • High doses give hallucinations, respiratory depression
    • 'dehydration
    • Sore throat or in case of insuflation; sore nasal passages
    • dilated pupils
    • sweating
    • jaw clenching
    • stomache pains and naussea
    • significant hangover effects that may last for several days
    • if being drug tested, it gives positive result for amphetamines
    • research shows BZP has the abuse liability of amphetamines
    Contraindications:
    • not for people with heart of liver disease
    • not for people with mental health problems
    • do not combine with MAOI
    Reccomendations:
    • first time users should start with half the recommended dose
    • drink enough to avoid dehydration
    • does not mix well with alcohol
    • do not use products without full ingredient list
     
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  5. Euphoric

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    Re: BZP (piperazine)

    I realize this is an old thread, but it is the only one I found that was like a general info BZP thread. Anyways, SWIM read something interesting in Drugs and controlled substances : information for students ( Blachford, Stacey.)

    It said something like
    Equus speed. That's a new one. Couldn't find anything about it online. I say he thinks it happened in the states around 2001.
     
  6. Josh88

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    Bzp

    I am interested in knowing what BZP looks like in rock/crystal/powder form. The taste? Smell? any info would be appreciated.
     
  7. RedBaron

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    Re: Bzp

    In powder form, BZP could range from looking like a pearl grey to a peach color similar to MDMA. Baron once dissolved some in a acidic fruit juice and must say even in there, the taste was vile! BZP has a speedy effect that is similar to MDMA but without the massive emotional release. Baron found that the high lasted a long time but he got a painful comedown.
     
  8. MAMJWH-420

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    BZP (Benzylpiperazine)

    I heard a guy on a subway talking about BZP.

    He said it's the best stimulant around. Says it lasts about six hours, has a coke-like drip but without the insanity of meth. He said 'it gives you a rush like you're having a stroke, but you probably wouldn't care anyway'.

    'It's like a meth/E/blow combo', or so the guy said. He said that he started at 7am Saturday morning and finally crashed at about 4am on tons of valium and synth cans.

    What a maniac! I'm not riding that bus anymore!!!

    Anyone else gotten into this stuff?
     
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  9. ianzombie

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    Re: BZP (Benzylpiperazine)

    I tried it a couple of times and did not enjoy the experience.

    BZP was one of the first substances sold in Headshops, as a legal ecstacy alternative, where i live. That was about 6 or 7 years ago. I know it was being sold on the continent a lot longer than that.
    I think it was the main substance used in pills that were manufactured and sold legally from out of New Zealand.

    It seemed to go out of favour with many (those who didnt mind it to begin with) once the Research Chemical floodgates opened and people had more options to choose from.

    My memories of it was a tingling sensation in my head, feeling cold, and finding it hard to urinate.
    Im not a fan of stimulants in general so my opinion might differ greatly from those who like them. Although i do remember that my friends who liked MDMA/ecstacy were mostly not impressed at all.

    Was it used to worm cattle originally?
     
  10. MAMJWH-420

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    Re: BZP (Benzylpiperazine)

    Interesting. I remember hearing a lot about New Zealand when hearing all about BZP and BZP experiences. I guess a person who isn't a fan of stimulants in general wouldn't enjoy the kick. Oh, and BZP and MDMA combos=bye bye. Death.

    Oh, and yeah it was originally a worm treatment. But they gave up on it for some reason then tried it as an antidepressant on humans. LOL, people liked it too much as it has 'amphetamine-like effects' and is "liable to abuse". They conducted a study and concluded that the substance should be controlled.

    lmfao~

    MAMJWH-420 added 61 Minutes and 55 Seconds later...

    Hmmm...I just watched a documentary, claiming that BZP was synthesized intentionally (as a recreational designer drug) in New Zealand by a chemist who just wanted to prove that it could be done. Not sure which source I trust or if it even matters.

    MAMJWH-420 added 8 Minutes and 26 Seconds later...

    Batt Bowden, a New Zealand musician, had his bandmate die due to amphetamine use so Bowden was hellbent on finding a similar substance that isn't addictive or dangerous. He found a pharmacologist who was working with different molecules and discovered BZP (which was being used as an antidepressant at the time). Then it just flooded the country and was mass produced. Bowden proved that it was possible to mass produce a synthetic and safe substance to replace meth (or so he thought).
     
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    Re: BZP (Benzylpiperazine)

    It turns out it wasn't BZP. Begs the question, doesn't it...
     
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    Re: BZP (Benzylpiperazine)

    HI, everybody! last month, i got a big bottle of BZP,, when myfriend and me snorted BZP first time, we felt very good, and then we snort the BZP powder (98%) from the same bottle, we have no the similar feeling but only headache etc, till today, we have no the good feeling anymore, it's so strange! so i want to ask the experienced friends here, why the BZP is not good everytime, and how can we get back the feeling of BZP? thank you very mcuh!!