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Opinions - Best way to use morphine ER tablets

Discussion in 'Morphine' started by RxSurf, Dec 6, 2009.

  1. RxSurf

    RxSurf Newbie

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    OKAY...I have search the F'ing forum up and down for days and cannot find information on the best way to recreationally use a 15mg MS Extended Release tablet. Oral usage is pretty much out of the question since they're are only 15mg tablets and I don't want to blow through these by taking 3 or 4 at a time...I do not get down with needles...

    SWIM only found a quick blurb by someone saying to "crisp" the crushed up powder before snorting. This damages the time release mechanism by damaging the binders in the powder. I tried this, but still no noticeable benefits compared to not "crisping" the powder: still blue snot, still stuffed up nose, still hardly a high. Lol.

    Any and all suggestions appreciated, thanks!
     
  2. MoonGoddess

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    Are swim's tablets coated? If so, must scrape off....:eek:
     
  3. RxSurf

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    SWIM's tablets do not seem to have any coating on them. I believe the controlled-release mechanism is distributed throughout the tablet via an insoluble matrix, rather than in a coating on the outside (as in Oxycontin tablets which have a controlled-release coating).
     
  4. I_8_my yellow crayon

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    First of all, the coating on an oxycontin tanlet consists of not even 1% of its time-release mechanism. All tablets that are time released have the time-release mechanism incorporated into the tablet itself and not the coating, just to clear that up. A simple google search even will show this. But, the coating does always need to be removed. In most cases, coatings are only used in the first place to:

    -mask the bitter taste of the drug.
    -helps to reduce metabolic attack.(In some cases)
    -For the medication to efficiantly reach the stomach.

    The reason they say Oxycontin's time-release system is easily manipulated is not because of the scarping of the coating primarily, but of the drugs easy extraction into the most common solvent H20(water). Which is a common problem (only to the critic's of abusing drugs;)) with most time-released opiate/opioid medications.

    First, nobody knows, nor will tell You what exact medication he has, but here's a couple links to help with that.

    http://www.pharmer.org/imprints/narcotics

    http://www.pharmer.org/node/1020

    http://www.drugs.com/pill_identification.html

    So, first figure out which brand and exact medication You has, then he can be helped further. If You is too lazy to do so, or just wants to get them into him/her as soon as possible, then here's a few usefull threads on how to take advantage of opiates.

    https://drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22807- Opiate bioavailabilities, swim suggest's highly that You reads this one, very usefull to his question.

    https://drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=97839- Opiate database.

    https://drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22922- Anal use, if taking a tube of lube, and a turkey baster, and making good use of an asshole suits You fancy, then by all means, read this one, its great(the thread)

    https://drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10884- Opiate potentiators, things that might make that 15mg of morphine pack a little more punch.

    So, do a little researching, as I has left You with loads of fun reading, and he can decide for himself what to do. Anymore questions, just ask.

    Stay safe
    Happy swimming
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  5. RxSurf

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    I am quite familiar with these substances and their relative bioavailabilities and ways to extract them and how to potentiate, etc. SWIM also read all the threads You made reference to. However, not all time-release mechanisms are, as You said, incorporated into the tablet. If that were the case, then why would people even bother removing the coating of the OC tablets to be insufflated? The coatings obviously cause that glob of gel/gelling effect you get, from which the drug is released very slowly (whether in the sinus cavity, or small intestine). The coating also functions to do the other things You mentioned. For example, a Concerta extended release tablet uses an actual mechanical process to release the drug through a small hole at the end of the tablet (if you take one, you'll even see the insoluble time-release capsule mechanism in your feces if you care to check, lol).

    I am just trying to figure out how to get the most out of these stupid little things...

    Thanks
     
  6. JamesD

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    Well, it seems to be the issue at hand; removing the coating. I have found, the absolute best, way to do this. You are welcome!
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    No, really, I have tried so many things and most of what I see here. I do not have any intention of using sharp instruments (I don't know what we can and cannot say here) but, even when using they snout & straw, the gummy coating and additives leave goo in your hole, lol.

    Okay, this is so simple -- IF you have a pill that is ONLY COATING, you are in luck! Get a soft emery board -- a nail file, if you will. Get a soft one (usually sold seperately in the make-up, nail polish aisle, etc. at just about anywhere. Hold the pill as best you can -- or use tweezers or hemostats. Gently file the color-coating off the pill exposing nothing but the inner med. Use as fine a file as you can find as not to take off any of the inner medicine. When you have removed the color, you are left with an "uncoated" pill.

    I have been doing this with my IR (Immediate Release). After crushing, I take my health insurance card (very thin plastic, just the right amount of bend) and line it up. However, MUCH better, and with the outer coating removed (no waste using water or other), it STILL has something in it that about 30 minutes after insertion (is that what you would call it?), I have a wad of gum in my nose, lol.

    Anyone have a suggestion of what I might ask for next time in the place of the worthless morphine? Maybe immediate release is less gummy? Gummy at all? Anyone have suggestions? I also take (up) Fentora 400 mcg and have read all that says these are "100 times stronger than morphine!!" If this is true, a 400 mcg lozenge, it adds up to 4(!!) mg of the "fabulous" morphine. PLEASE!

    Open to suggestions. My doctor broke it to me that pain pills were, most likely, my life's journey. I was, in a way, happy to hear it. I no longer feel like I have to put on an act or show to get out of excruciating pain. The surgeries and cancer have left me miserable, and with the medicine, I can ALMOST function. Now, if we only had right to die -- with dignity.