Black Hole Appetite Stimulant

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  1. sterling77

    sterling77 Iridium Member

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    This product "Blackhole" looks really interesting. Like really, really interesting. It's aimed at the bodybuilding company and just came out. The company says it mimics cannabinoids through the use of two other plants with some similar structures to give the same (or supposedly better) appetite stimulation of pot, but without the THC.

    Anyone tried it yet? It's only available through the company right now, but if it's effective they've struck gold.

    From the Controlled Lab's website:

    Non-Psychoactive Cannabinomimetic Alkylamides™ Complex:

    Everyone knows that marijuana makes you hungry. So how does an athlete or bodybuilder increase their appetite naturally without having to deal with an illegal drug? Well, if there were a chemical that was physically similar to the active ingredient in marijuana, THC, then it could potentially activate the same receptors and elicit the increased hunger response. There just so happens to be a group of alkylamides that act as cannabinomimetics and mimic cannabinoids in structure and bind to their receptors, the CB1 and CB2, which are part of the G-protein-coupled-receptor group. These receptors are located in the brain and around the body. They are in charge of many different functions including, but not limited to, appetite (increased and decreased), immune system function, anti-inflammatory response and euphoric pleasure.

    The next step was to look for herbs that contained these alkylamides that mimic the structure of cannabinoids. The two herbs that showed the greatest promise were Echinacea Purpurea and Spilanthes Acmella. Both of these herbs contain many different alkylamides, but recent clinical information has shown that there are 3 in particular that have a high affinity for binding to both the CB1 and CB2 receptors. Dodeca-2E,4E,8Z,10Z/E-tetraenoic acid isobutylamide and dodeca-2E,4E-dienoic acid isobutylamide from the Echinacea herb and undeca-2E,7Z,9E-trienoic acid isobutylamide from the Spilanthes herb, found in a precise blend in Black Hole™, could be used to mimic the herbal cannabinoids found in marijuana, and more importantly, the endogenous cannabinoids found in the human body, including anandamide. Not only does the clinical information show that they can mimic them, but they can even bind to the receptors for a longer period of time than can the other two types. This means that Black Hole™ will help produce hunger stimulating effects potentially greater than anything you have experienced before.

    The oral bioavailability of these alkylamides has also been shown to be extremely high in human studies, so they will make it to the receptors without getting degraded by the gastric juices and/or the liver. Because the alkylamides bind to both the CB1 and CB2 receptors, Black Hole™ can also potentially help with anti-inflammatory response and better immune system function over the long term.

    Now that you are hungry and have begun stuffing your mouth with tons of protein and good carbohydrates, what is your body going to do with all of those calories….


    Digest-It-All™ Complex:

    It wouldn’t be in your best interests to create a huge appetite and not have the ingredients to help you digest all of those extra calories, which is why we included the Digest-It-All™ complex in Black Hole™. Digest-It-All™ will not only soothe the gastrointestinal system, but will also help you produce more gastric juices to accommodate the increased calories and food mass. Humulus Lupulus, otherwise known as hops, that is typically used in the manufacturing of beer, helps the stomach produce a larger volume of gastric juices that aid in digestion. Why push yourself so hard in the gym only to look like you have a beer belly due to bloating? You deserve the physique you work so hard on, which is why we added Clavo Huasca and Cayaponia Tayuya to the formula. They both aid in digestion and in the expelling of extra gas from the intestines. Ginger has been added to help increase the volume of bile excreted from the gallbladder, as well as for its anti-oxidant benefits. Giant Knotweedl has also been added as an anti-oxidant. These two powerful anti-oxidants will help scavenge free radicals that can result from greater food consumption.


    You asked for it and now you have it, the first and only appetite stimulator supplement on the market, Black Hole™!!



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  2. sterling77

    sterling77 Iridium Member

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    This just came out, but a few people have already reported success. The company is also pretty new, but has grown incredibly fast. Its other products are relatively high quality.

    Anyone have any comments on the science behind it? There isn't too much other info on it besides this writeup.

    Also wonder how it would interact with pot? It says the alkylamides "mimic cannabinoids in structure" and actually bind to the CB1 and CB2 receptors. If its true then it might be synergistic with pot?
     
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    lol, then would you have the ultra-munchies? I dont know if that would be a good thing. Theres enough obesity in the US as it is.
     
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    sterling77 Iridium Member

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    Haha I get munchies bad enough as it is. Or good enough as it is, he can't eat enough for weightlifting without the munchies.
     
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    Alfa Productive Insomniac Staff Member Administrator

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    I am going to try this one out. Sounds good to me.
     
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    Be sure to let us know how it goes if you do.
     
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    Alfa Productive Insomniac Staff Member Administrator

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    I will certainly do so.
     
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    I am also seriously thinking of trying this, and will definetly run a trial comparing and combining it w/ pot. After all a couple people already found it works. He'll report back once he has raised funds.

    BTW cleverly named product haha.
     
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  9. ATWA

    ATWA Newbie

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    Very Interesting Find..Legal Cannabinoid receptor agonist.

    I was ordering some vitamins from an internet supplier that sells legit health food supplements. I mean a well known company. I came across a product that is being sold as an appetite enhancer. The product is marked as a molecule that activates cannabinoid receptors in the body! Now I realize that I cannot give a source. I do not want to break a rule. So here is what the website says about the product.....


     
  10. Shampoo

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    Alfa, Sterling77, did someone who is not you ever try this product?

    If so,

    *was the compound comparable in any way to cannabis?

    *How was the effect on appetite?

    *Was there a psychoactive quality to the substance?

    *Any side effects?

    *Tolerance?

    *What was the time of onset (if the effects were notable enough that an onset could be determined)?

    *How long did the effects last?
     
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    I have never tried it and have no reason too. But I will say that it is tempting to want to believe that it might have some psychoactive effect similar to pot. However this is by no means necessarily true. Even though two molecules may work in a similar manner by no means indicates a similar action. Or at least that both will have most or all of the attributes of each other. :)
     
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    Of course. There are many non-psychoactive cannabinoids and cannabinoid analogues, and there are many non-psychoactive CB agonists. However, there are also many psychoactive ones, and I am inquiring as to whether or not these showed any activity. I understand that it is not garuanteed or expected, that is why I am asking.
     
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    There is no psychoactive effect. The name black hole is very appropriate, as my stomach hurt like hell and felt like a big gaping hole. It felt like it stretched, warped, I'm not sure if that makes any sense.
     
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