Calamus->Aserone->TMA-2?

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  1. William_Again

    William_Again Gold Member

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    I read recently that calamus contains aserone and that when aserone
    enters the body it turns into TMA-2 (which is a know RC), what I want
    to know is 1:) Is this true? 2:) Is this worth trying?



    Has anyone tried any type of calamus extract and gotten any interesting
    effects from it or is it a waste of time, whether it be from that you
    have to ingest copious amounts of calamus or is it just ineffective?
     
  2. HighwayMan

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    I ingested copius amounts of SweetFlag/Acorus Calamus( Stupid name
    since it was bitter as hell ). I read that it contained the precurser
    Asarone and that natives used to chew the root for amphetamine like
    energy. The effect was a bad high and an extremely long purging session
    followed by bodily shock. This was before all these internet resources
    were available. Not Recommeded.
     
  3. moeBius

    moeBius Gold Member

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    i also took calamus without having any effects, apart from a really bitter taste.

    the conversion of asarone to tma-2 in the human body is afaik a theory.

    many who tried calamus never felt any effects, probably because the
    only calamus with a high content of the right asarone (there are 2,
    alpha & beta) comes from india.

    european or calamus from north america is not the stuff youre looking for.

    for all i know asarone can be used as a precursor for tma-2 but the cleaning process of the asarone shouldnt be easy.
     
  4. Alfa

    Alfa Productive Insomniac Staff Member Administrator

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    The amount of Asarone in calamus is far to low to give substantial psychoactive effects IMO. Different species of Calamus contain different asarones. i.e. Beta-asarone and / or Alpha-asarone. This may also make a big difference. Edited by: Alfa
     
  5. DrugPhreak

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    When taken internally cis-asarone (70-90% of Indian Calamus) will be metabolized viademethylation, but a very small amount will actuallybe converted into amphetamines. This is also a great way to get cancer. [​IMG]
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  6. William_Again

    William_Again Gold Member

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    Well I think I will nix this idea and not try it, but thanks for the
    info. Also apparently a few herbal xtc's conatin calamus and claim
    thats what makes them work...but then again most of that herbal stuff
    is bunk.


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  7. Alfa

    Alfa Productive Insomniac Staff Member Administrator

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    This used to be an excuse to put TMA-2 in the herbal xtc's. Did kick ass. Then it became illegal and now it's just Calamus extract.