california poppy

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  1. albydamned

    albydamned Newbie

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    I have a bunch of wild california poppies in my back yard and i was wondering if it is possible to get opium from them.
     
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      Please do research before posting a thread. A google search could tell you it isn't.
      Jul 17, 2016
  2. bogumil

    bogumil Gold Member

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    i dont think so. look in the thread with the definitions of morphine and poppy straw. i think there stood something aout cal. poppies. if i remember right, they contain m but not much. better check it out by yourself.
     
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    yeah thats what i thought ill check it out i hope there is some
    in it because i love opium and its sooooo hard to find where i
    live now
     
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    "Pap. Rhoeas, Pap. Argemone, Humulus Lupus (Hops) **** - there are conflicting reports about thiss , and one researcher reported that it was found in Eschazolica California . **** - I believe what they detected in Eschazolica was a fentanyl matrix, I am at a loss to explain the conflicting reports on humulus lupus, one urban legend used to state that one could distill Amschstel Stout to obtain a type of opium. I;ve been informed that there are other such legends in other locales as well "





    Thats what i found. the cali poppy isnt there, so i fear ... but maybe someone else here knows more about this
     
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    Opium has to be harvested at the right time, and in
    the right way.

    Soon after the flower pettals off, the crown on top of
    the pod will begin turning upward. When the crown is
    flat (or perhaps shortly after flat) the pod is ripe for
    harvest.

    The chamber that holds the opium is very narrow.
    Slice too deep and the opium will bleed back into the
    pod. When slicing the pod, do not make the blade
    depth much more than 1 mm.

    A cutting tool can be made using a set of
    exacto-knife blades and a cork.

    Push two or three of the blades through the cork until
    they protrude out the oposite end just far enough to
    make reasonable cutting depth. One draw of the
    cutting tool will make 2-3 cuts. Allow at least several
    hours for the pod to bleed. 6+ hours best.

    Opium should be left to dry & harden before use.
     
    1. 3/5,
      Good description of harvesting, but off-topic.
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  6. albydamned

    albydamned Newbie

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    thanks for the info i think im gonna give it a try
     
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    just plant some papver somniferums along with your california poppies, they look the same and no one will know the difference. In my opinion the Persian White seeds are the best and produce a beautiful flower also a large pod with lots of O. You can buy them from lots of places on the net for really cheap.
    Edited by: Micklemouse
     
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    thanks thats pretty that they look the same i didnt want to grow white poppys because of their distinct look.
     
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    In my opinion California Poppy's are useless for getting opium from them, as a matter of fact the only use I see them as is a tall flower that is pretty. I mean, come on, you can buy the extract at GNC. They sell a product there called "California Poppy Plus" made by a company called "Basic Organics". Which is the california poppy extract mixed with some B vitamins and such. I bought a bottle of this stuff and took a few pills, they didnt do shit for me. I figured as much since they sold the stuff at GNC. Stick with P. Somniferum poppies. That's really where it's at...
     
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    I remember reading that California Poppies don't have any actual opiodes, but they have some chemicals that are kinda related and give some effect, although mild.
     
  11. sands of time

    sands of time Gold Member

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    Californian poppies do not contain morphine, or any opiates at all. They do contain some releated alkoloids which have a sedative effect, but they are not recreational in any way. I have found this plant to be a decent sleeping aid, although mild.
     
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      Accurate.
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    blackwolf Newbie

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    WHat kind of california poppys have you seen....the ones I know of are
    small, orange, and have a very slender pod, could not be mistaken for
    somniferums. On the other hand oriental poppies do look similar to the
    untrained eye.....
     
  13. lulz

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    Absolutely no recreational value to this then?

    Shame, I was in a health food store today and I burst out laughing when I saw a bottle that said "tincture of poppy". Between the dopey laughter and the way I grabbed the bottle I must have looked like a bit of a junkie lol. I've got the moves.
     
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    jcdjinn Silver Member

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    Not only do california poppies not contain any opiates, they're not even a real species of poppy. They look incredibly different from every single other species of poppy which have a little pod with a crown on top and the seeds inside. The california poppy grows into a long bean with much bigger seeds inside. Pretty flower but no real use.
     
    1. 4/5,
      Good point. California poppies are not true poppies.
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  15. samuraigecko

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    The only poppy which produces opiates is Papaver Somniferum. Californian Poppy is [SIZE=-1]Eschscholzia californica and contains no opiate alkaloids. In fact the only other poppy other than Papaver S which does produce an "opiate alkaloid" is "Flanders Poppy" (Papaver Rhoeas) which contains TRACE amounts of Papaverine, which is basically useless in small quantities and a bit toxic in larger quantities.

    hope that has helped.
     
    1. 3/5,
      Incorrect. Bracteatum produces thebaine, which is an opiate alkaloid.
      Jul 17, 2016