Effects - Can one have a bad trip on MDMA?

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  1. dwtk

    dwtk Silver Member

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    I am very scared of having bad trips on shrooms or lsd. If I do E for his first time (which will be soon) is there much of a chance he will be frightened by how powerful it is? SWIM hears how the first few minutes can be really intense. SWIM just wants to relax at home and wait for it to take effect. By the way, I am only taking one.
     
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  2. Psych0naut

    Psych0naut Platinum Member

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    Not really.You won't "trip" of E unless you take high doses or there is a other pschydelic substance in it, for example LSD.
    The substance in E tables is mdma, which isn't really a pschydelic, though it changes your perception somewhat, it isn't really like mushrooms or LSD.
    The only thing that can happen is that You takes a too high dose which can make you go too ''fast'', making the world spin, and things flashing by and stuff like that which might be scary.
    Just start with half on one, and if it's okey, take the other half an hour later.
    Have fun!;)
     
  3. dwtk

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    Oh, well yeah. I know you don't hallucinate most of the time unless you take a lot. I kinda meant to ask just how intense it can be for the first time taking one. SWIM's not going to take a half since he heard it doesn't give the same experience, plus it's costing SWIM a decent ammount of money ;)

    Think there's much chance I can freak out my first time? Doesn't sound like it.

    Thanks.
     
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  4. mala_22

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    There is a chance You may feel a bit "overloaded" for a short while on the come up, a bit nervous and slightly nauseous maybe which would pass very quickly, but I very much doubt there would be any freaking out.

    You should ensure they have a good selection of their favourite tunes at hand if done at home. Relaxing and waiting for it to take effect would result in a less enjoyable time than having the correct lighting and music.
     
  5. These Forensics

    These Forensics Newbie

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    one time swim introduced his friend to e. he consumed 2 swan pills which were loaded with meth

    I took a shower while his friend chilled in the livingroom, and when swim dryed himself off he found his friend bugging the fuck out downstairs

    "OHMYGOD WHY DIDNT YOU TELL ME ABOUT THIS BEFORE IVE NEVER FELT LIKE THIS IN MY LIFE OMGOMGOM"

    my friend then went down a dark path into a negative mdma experience. this guy couldnt get a grip, and for the next few hours he didsnt have a good time
     
  6. mala_22

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    How can it be a bad MDMA experience if they are loaded with meth. The negative effects were most probably down do the meth and other ingredients rather than the mdma.
     
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    I don't want to vomit either, but that doesn't sound like it will happen.
     
  8. IHrtHalucingens

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    Taking 1 pill will most likely not send You into a terrible overlaoded state of mind. If your worried about it take 1/2 the pill then wait 30mins and take the other 1/2. This will keep you from being overwhelmed with the come up. besides the come up i cant see how an MDMA experience could be a bad one.
     
  9. podge

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    i wouldnt worry about freakng out.....thats the beauty of x .....you cant help but enjoy it. everyone feels the same nerves tirst time trying something new....dont stress....you'll enjoy it.
     
  10. raven3davis

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    Like with all drugs, the set and setting of an XTC "trip" is vital for a good experience. You wont have a bad trip like you would have off of lsd, but you can experience some negative feelings and wish you had never taken ecstasy. SWIM experienced this once.

    He was missing someone very much and he dropped an e. He plugged 120mg which was an excellent dose, but he just did not enjoy it. He kept thinking about that someone the whole time he was rolling. XTC is a very emotional drug, so during a roll you can experience high levels of happiness or even depression. Just like with lsd, shrooms, 2c-e or any psychadelic, your state of mind during the trip will make a big difference in the way you are going to feel. I felt lonely and slightly depressed during his roll. If he would have been with his good friend, he would have had the best roll of his life.

    I think there would be more of a possibility of having a bad trip from MDA, which is often found in pills, and is much more "psychadelic" than regular ecstasy (MDMA). Still though, an MDA trip is not comparable in intensity to a strong lsd or shroom trip. To maxamize the effects of ecstasy, just be in a relaxed state of mind and have a good enviroment to chill in. The setting of a trip is most important with strong phenethylamines and tryptamines, but it still should not be overlooked when taking a drug like mdma or even marijuana. I have had "bad trips"from smoking weed because he was paraniod that he would get caught. How do you avoid such an occurance? Just trip/roll/get stoned/get fucked up in the right place at the right time. Get it? Got it? haha okay then.......have a good trip~
     
  11. Myzrael

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    Good post raven3davis!

    I would say that if you have good MDMA and you don't take too much You will have a wonderfull time. MDMA is really a very easy drug when it comes to emotions and bad experiences. Sure , it is possible to have unpleasant feelings but not very likely. However I understand your anxiety because I also have problems with that. As soon as the X kicks in he gets a rush though and just plain loves it!
    However , one suggestion of SWIM. Never take MDMA or any other drug when you feel sad. I do not think that is a good way to go about MDMA or any drug. Use them when you are happy , use them to enhance your life , not to make reality foggy because you don't like to see the "real" world. Always remember that and most of you's problems will be gone. Most trips and drug experiences go bad because of a bad mood and a bad setting.

    So be with nice people and have fun! I am sure You will!
    :)
     
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      good suggestion. It is never goo to take mdma when you are sad
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  12. Nagognog2

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    Psychedelics like LSD can cause bad trips that can include a temporary psychosis (rare). The flip-side to an MDMA trip, even cut with meth, is an anxiety attack. Not pleasant - but not bad enough to require medical intervention.

    Just always be sure to have your monkey do his/her exploring in safe and calm surroundings - at least until the monkey is knowledgable regards what to expect.
     
  13. chiliblue

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    I had once gotten an anxiety attack while on e..he felt like something really bad was going to happen...felt dizzy, felt weak in the knees, shallow breathing (perhaphs why then I felt dizzy and got blurry vision)..couldnt think straight...there was a weird sinking feeling present...closing eyes would be horrible as it felt like you were being sucked into a sad negative like place.....really strange..first half an hour was really really intense and as time passed the feeling wore off...took about 5hrs in total though...then swim boogied down for about an hour or so lol

    anyway, that was swim's only 2nd time on e and only 3/4 was taken..first a 1/2 then 1/4 about an hour and a half later...
    swim probably found it too intense.. :eek:
     
  14. Bajeda

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    I remember the first 3 or 4 times he took Ecstasy. All of them were with medium sized groups of people (friends for the most part), and all of them were with different sets of people.

    In each one of those times one person had the MDMA equivalent of a "bad trip". It wasn't as painful as a hallucinogenic bad trip, but the person in each case was definately anti-social and became easily irritable. They couldn't be around the music and commotion and had to sit outside and relax or just smoke a few spliffs and stare out into the ocean. One person afterwards said it was because the feeling overwhelmed him, and another said that he didn't know what happened but he just felt really confused and wasn't necessarily depressed, but just didn't have the clarity of mind MDMA usually gives.


    Since these incidents I haven't seen anyone else get a "bad trip" from MDMA though he would like to let you know that it is possible to have a less than great experience, even though it may be rare.
     
  15. reallyneat

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    haha you're gonna have fun. never heard of a "bad trip" on e.
     
  16. RPS

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    With SWIM's many experiences on E, I can say that you will be fine, as long as you think about what you are about to do before you do it.
    Like stated before, make sure you are in a safe enviroment, preferably one that you have been in before, and is not new to you. It also helps to have a sober friend with you for your first experience.

    Hope this helps, and SWIM hopes your friend has fun.

    Cheers,
    RPS
     
  17. Greenport

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    Re: Can it be scary? Or bad trip?

    Bad E's can amount to bad experiences, and also there are a few people who just generally have negative reactions to mdma which can cause them to feel crappy, or if the person has some serious things going through his/her head at the time that can amount to feeling bad.

    However if the quality is assured and said person goes into it with the right state of mind, and stays within a reasonable dosage limit in a good setting, they're likely to have a good time.

    SwiM once knew a blue dolphin. SwiM's blue dolphin took an orange something or another once upon a time (the dolphin doesn't do them anymore) which caused it to feel intense moments of euphoria followed by intense anxiety...over and over again. It did that for 6 hours. The dolphin was miserable and there was a gnarly crash afterwards. But out of the many stories the dolphin has, that is one of the very few negative ones regarding said empathogen :).
     
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    I have done x many times, always having the best time of his life. Once, before he went out with people he didn't know very well, I had said that he has never had a bad trip on extasy. He was speaking for a long time, saying that it's not possible to have a bad trip. He dropped and went to a dodgy metal club he has never been to. He would never go there sober, but as I had x, he thought he'd have a great time. Well, I was in the club, impatiently awaiting another unforgettable night. In about 35 minutes, I started to feel it, but it was nothing of a good feeling he had experienced so many times before. In a matter of a few minutes, I got extremely paranoid, unable to raise his eyes. It occurred to him that everybody was watching his every move. As if they knew that I was on x. As if they wanted to blame him. At that moment, swim realised what he had said at the beginning of the night, and it struck him. Swim quickly realised that this time, x wasn't working for him, but against. He felt that something went terribly wrong. It was a nightmare. I have never felt this paranoid before from any other drug. Swim's friends who were obviously having a great time asked him if he was ok, trying to make him smile. But swim knew that the only way to escape this is to go home into his room. He told his friends that he was going to the toilet and sneakily walked out of the club, hailing the first cab he spotted. At home, he went to the bed and thought about what has happened and why. Since then, I think twice before he says something. Swim will never forget that night and has more respect for x.
     
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      In the 11 years since this thread was created SWIM has been banned please re-read the rules
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