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Extraction - Can poppy pods be eaten?

Discussion in 'Opium & Poppy' started by dowii, Apr 10, 2009.

  1. dowii

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    Swim has fresh poppy pods and does not want to make tea. Can swim eat the pods and recieve the same high?
     
  2. trichopium

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    yes, it will be fine.
     
  3. EyesOfTheWorld

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    In terms of intensity it will be stronger than tea as all the psychoactives will get consumed. Please wash SWIYs pods thoroughly first, no matter how clean the vendor claims they are, it is just vendor claims, take with massive grain of salt.
     
  4. Lady Codone

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    Mmmmm, fresh pods. Less of the goodies will have degraded, so they'll be a bit stronger than dried. They can be eaten, brewed into tea, bled for opium, and so many other things. Be careful not to overdo it, as eating them is more efficient than making tea. Start slow and work SWIYour way up.
     
  5. samuraigecko

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    SWIM agrees.

    Under normal circumstances Opiates do not degrade after drying. Chemical testing has shown it to be the same. Both the Morphine and Codeine molecule have a fairly long shelf life if treated properly.

    However, if they have been in the sun for prolonged periods or kept in a hot place for long periods then Opiate degradation will have taken place. This can be a problem with dried pods if the source is not known.

    The source provider could have sun dried the pods or kept them in a warm place and they may not be from the season that they state or as fresh as they state. When buying pods for flower arrangements freshness is important and the year of which they are grown should be stated or known. In the end if buying dried pods one doesn't know what they are buying until they find a good provider.

    Peace :)
     
  6. Benway

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    according to pal of mine, the goodies are more available when fresh, and thus, requiring a lesser quantity.
     
  7. samuraigecko

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    Morphine and Codeine do not degrade unless they are exposed to prolonged periods of heat or intense light. Morphine and Codeine have an almost undefinable shelf life if kept properly.

    If one had a fresh pod, There will be no difference in the amount of alkaloids it contains after it has been dried.

    If it has come from a commercial supplier, they may sun-dry their pods or use other methods (like large kilns or ovens) which may be detrimental to the alkaloids. If one was doing it themselves from pods they have grown themselves and used other techniques that are safer for the pod, then there will be no difference.

    Peace :)
     
  8. waltz#2

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    SWIM found that tossing torn secitions of pods onto his ramen soup worked really well. SWIY may have found that they can eat the noodles whole, well same thing with the pod. *gulp*
     
  9. op8fan

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    To keep my answer to ur question simple, yes. SWIM has personally done this a few times when he did not have a coffee grinder available. SWIM didnt even mix them with other food, he simply removed it from the stem, dumped the seeds out, weighed out amount to consume (average medium size dried pods weigh around 2 grams each) and broke in small enough pieces to chew, chewed up real good and swallowed, chasing with a drink of a soda. SWIM says dried pods taste like sawdust. Yummy. Anyway, SWIM said effects were same as if u made tea with them and left the material in the tea
     
  10. matomon

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    Answer to this post is ABSOLUTLY!! swim decided that making poppy tea was not fun so tonight swim ate a very large fresh pod he picked from his garden size of a silver dollar, tasted very earthy. 20 or so minutes later swim was feeling very content. Swim thinks this is a superior way to consume pods rather then yucky tea.
     
  11. FruitOfDream

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    SWIM had eaten one larg poppy pod as kid :-

    Made him wery sleppy and cozzy while parents fraked out and took him to the hospital!
    In hospital SWIM got injection of something that made him ripped from the nice dream and violently sick.
    SWIM had panic attack in sight of hospital for years,because of that experience!

    So yes,you can eat pods with nice effect!
     
  12. LickDaCat

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    You may end up with poppy pods growing out of your anus. Just score them and smoke away.
     
  13. interlunar

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    Toss and wash (eating the powered flower) is the only way my pet nighthawktakes his poppies. It's both more potent and longer-lasting.

    and for LDC's post above -- if he's talking about constipation then yes, it is more of an issue for someone (who isn't you) eating the entire pod. It hasn't ever been a problem for my pet though, and a good percentage of users prefer this method.
     
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    my puppy would do a simple opiate extraction with them. then smoke the opi :}
     
  15. Descartesx

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    Depending on tolerance and experience, toss'n' wash may only be practical for those with a relatively low opiate tolerance as one would have to consume a large amount of the powdered product to get the desired effects.
    However, this is a very, very useful method for those who want to taper off from a poppy pod dependence, as with toss and wash dosages are more accurate when consumed because unlike with tea, all alkaloids in the poppy powder are consumed. Morphine and codeine (which demethylates to morphine) slow the digestive tract, which may lead to greater overall absorbance of alkaloids and due to it being so long lasting, a person may not need to re-dose in a day to keep withdrawals at bay...
     
  16. Herbs&Hopes

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    I have always read (generally from established medical authorities) that opiates slow digestion and thus aid absoprtion by a lengthened exposure, but come to think about it, if the drug is inhibiting the action of the intestines overall, would not the absorption of nutrients also be affected negatively? The cells are all operating much slower down there, evidenced by the lengenthed exposure, why would absorption of vitamins, minerals and drugs suddenly be accelerating amidst exposure of the entire system to a downer which is obviously slowing of both mind and body on all levels, why would the cellular level funtion of general absorption, assimilation and metabolism of nutrients/drugs be sped up suddenly?

    This slowing of the system is more so apparent in the new user but still apparent at appropriate dosages for a seasoned user as well as the medical patient alike, especially if they are not taking appropriate measures to balance the side-effects via adjusted nutritional intake, predominantly magnesium supplements or plums... sometimes both.
     
  17. Viscerok

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    Take the pods and get rid of the seeds. Grind up the pods in a Vitamix (blender) until powdered and mixed well. Measure out the amount in grams swim wishes to consume (based on tolerance, experience and comfort level. Mix with grapefuit juice and swallow said slurry. Swim baselined with 10g last time, and was glad he didn't do his regular 15!

    This is the only way to do it in swim's opinion. Gradual climb over about 2 hours to a nice nod and itch plateau for a good 6 hours after that. Nice comedown. Enjoy carefully!
     
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    My fox does not seem to get any results so far from the toss and wash method. Could this in part be due to low quality pods? My fox has no tolerance (apart from kindling effect)
     
  19. CrookedEye

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    SWIM got the best results from toss and wash, or grinding them and putting them in white grapefruit juice and washing them down. Perhaps the pods aren't very good or SWIY isn't taking enough..
     
  20. Descartesx

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    Could the effects present be due to the enzyme-inhibiting properties of the grapefruit juice? My fox is wary of using GFJ due to it making the opiates in the pods more available for a longer period of time, which will inevitably lead to an increased tolerance. What sort of dose, in grams would a person use to achieve these effects and what was their previous dose of opiods/iates before using this method?