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Side effects - Can smoking synthetic marijuana cause vomiting?

Discussion in 'Cannabinoids' started by Waldo23, Apr 7, 2013.

  1. Waldo23

    Waldo23 Newbie

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    My friend is a constant user of synthetic marijuana/spice. Brands like Mad Monkey, Sexy Monkey, The dreaded, and Scooby Snacks are some of the brands he smokes. He smokes it everyday and all day and refuses to listen to anyone about being addicted. Recently he has had some medical issues like randomly getting nauseous and vomiting and he gets the shakes and has hot and cold flashes. He went to a doctor and they diagnosed him with cyclic vomiting syndrome (cvs). I asked him if he told the doctor that he smokes spice and he said yes and the doctor said it had nothing to do with it. But I seriously doubt that he told the doctor he smokes spice because he said that they have no idea whats causing the vomiting and I have a feeling that they would consider that as the cause. Can anyone tell me if spice can cause this?
     
  2. Phenoxide

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    Re: Can smoking synthetic marijuana cause vomiting

    Cannabis is an anti-emetic, so it wouldn't be a total revelation if overuse of synthetic cannabinoids dysregulates endogenous cannabinoid signaling to such an extent that you get a reverse effect and nausea. Cannabinoids are also known to affect body temperature. Those symptoms could quite plausibly be related to his drug use, especially if he's an otherwise healthy young male and the symptoms have persisted for more than a week or two. So I agree that it seems doubtful that he would have told the doctor about his drug use, or that if he had the doctor would've been so dismissive of the drug use as a factor.. if anything doctors tend to assume the worst when it comes to recreational drugs.

    Nausea, vomiting and thermoregulation problems all sound rather like typical withdrawal. Perhaps the symptoms set in when he hasn't taken any cannabinoids for a while? That would be a fairly conclusive sign that it's related to the cannabinoid use.
     
  3. Dunwiddit

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    Re: Can smoking synthetic marijuana cause vomiting

    From personal experience -- yes, absolutely. I was addicted to synthetic blends for nearly a year, and during that time, I developed some pretty terrible gastrointestinal issues. Slow emptying of the stomach (gastroparesis), cyclic vomiting syndrome, and Crohn's was thrown around. I woke up and vomited in the mornings, every morning. I was unable to eat without getting nauseous, and when I did eat dinner at night, I would throw up undigested food in the mornings.

    I also had nearly-constant cold-like symptoms for months at a time during the peak of my addiction, and doctor's visits revealed high white blood cell counts, and always high blood pressure. Several rounds of antibiotics did nothing.

    All of these problems ceased when I stopped using synthetic blends. I can only attribute them to the use of the blends, as I don't have a history of problems like these, and no longer experience them after cessation of use.

    Your friend needs help. I was lost in a $400/week habit that alienated me froom my wife and family. I pulled through okay, but it was the roughest time in my life. I made some very bad decisions, and under the influence of the blends you do not notice your own behavior.
     
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    Re: Can smoking synthetic marijuana cause vomiting

    yep, once my dog overdosed after 2 joints and nearly ended up throwing. wasnt cool. but it did make him highhh
     
  5. tralala

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    Re: Can smoking synthetic marijuana cause vomiting

    I'm a 30ish female, I tried synthetic cannabis once before in New Zealand (Spice) but wasn't sure what all the fuss was about, that stuff was pretty weak. I went to Sydney last month for work and my husband found some "Vortex Inferno" and bought it back to the hotel. One puff on that and I felt like I was glued to my chair. After a while you get used to it though and it becomes more like just a regular high. When I got back to Cairns I found another shop that sells a brand called "Heptic" which I started smoking daily - every half hour to an hour (similar to my pot smoking habit). After a couple of weeks I developed a very chesty cough, sometimes coughing up large amounts of mucous. After a month I noticed in the mornings after coughing that I was feeling nauseous, to the point of vomiting, now it's at a point where I wake up feeling sick even before the coughing begins. I thought it might be morning sickness, but have ruled that out.

    Anyway, long story short I'm sick of the coughing and vomiting so I smoked it all up last night and am quitting cold turkey today.
     
  6. JJ1234

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    Re: Can smoking synthetic marijuana cause vomiting

    I have vomited heavily on synthetic cannabinoids when too much was taken. Especially AM-2201! I am not talking about simply spitting up a little this was full force projectile vomiting. Happened to me at least five times. Even though it is a nasty side effect of an overdose I am so glad I didn't ever get any totally bad "trips."

    At one time my tolerance was so high I was vaping over a gram a day of straight AM-2201 and NOT a blend. Although withdraws were a bitch I never vomited from them.

    So as others have said the answer to your question is yes.
     
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    Re: Can smoking synthetic marijuana cause vomiting

    I recieved AB-PINACA today and tried it for the first time. I eyeballed a little powder and rolled a cig with it. 4 hits in and I could tell I would vomit. I ended up spitting up a small amount of mucus with a overly acidic feeling like vomiting orange juice. Obviously I should have measured it out so I figured maybe it was too much even though I just had a small buzz. Long story short, after trial and error Ive come to the conclusion that even if I put barely enough to even get buzzed I will feel I need to vomit after 2 or 3 hits. Its now in the waste bin.

    Ive vomited before on noids but never EVERY SINGLE TIME. This stuff is more effective as an ipecac substitute then something to get high on. I get dizzy thinking about how high I would need to be to make it worth it. I would basically have to transcend time and space and have an orgasm while eating bacon.
     
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    Re: Can smoking synthetic marijuana cause vomiting

    I asked him if he told the doctor that he smokes spice and he said yes and the doctor said it had nothing to do with it.
    R u sure your doc knew what he was talking about? you are giving product names; do you what exact chemical was in them? Was it the same chemical over the period of time/? there are so many noids and docs don't normally catch up on the later.
     
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    I overly agree with dunwiddit i share a similar experience. Quit the blend and ur problems will stop. The chem by itself is better than all that junk in the blend. But its best to stop alltogether
    Easier said than done.
     
  10. Roor

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    I have had random vomiting from AKB and PB22, mainly at the beginning of my use with the RC. After some tolerance builds up it seemed to stop.
     
  11. impurity

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    Plain and simple - yes.
     
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    I have thrown up plenty of times after smoking synthetic cannabinoids. Most of the time I can attribute it to a few different things, like over eating for example. Some blends really kick the munchies into over drive and I will eat way more then I normally would in any given setting other then being stoned. I end up so full that the next cough I literally blow the top off and waste all that money on the floor.

    I have noticed a that, at least, 75% of the blends do not mix very well with alcohol. The chance of getting nauseous and puking all over are greatly increased with poly drug use, even cigarettes after smoking just don't mix very well. These feelings of needing to lay down or having to puke go away in a short period of time. I have not seen anybody who's night was ruined because they started feeling like shit all of a sudden after smoking a synthetic blend. Just sit that person down and help them relax, be prepared with a trash can around. Sometimes projectile vomiting may occur without much warning in the case of excessive ingestion.
     
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    a friend once flopped and seized from a huge hit of am-2201 he started puking i called EMS and they diagnosed him with cyclin vomiting syndrome cannabinoid withdrawl can deff cause severe vomiting and hot cold flashes with the poops deff worse detox ever
     
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    So your friend smoked, had a seizure accompanied by vomitting and the diagnosis is cannabinoid withdrawl? By definition of withdrawl this seams to be a completely fabricated diagnosis due to the fact that your friend was under the influence at the time of this mishap. Overdose sounds more in order.
     
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    Re: Can smoking synthetic marijuana cause vomiting

    Do you really think a general practitioner will know anything about specific cannabinoids or even synthetic cannabinoids in general? And do you really think blend smokers have reliable knowledge about what's in their blends?
     
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    SWH-018 caused instant intense vomiting twice in a row. Stay clear of this compound.
     
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    2201 would at times make me projectile vomit. Then I would smoke more and more and not even care. Had a bag and everything and go back to what I was doing (porn).

    With those blends you don't know what else in in those and every one I've tried seem like they hadf something more than a cannabinoid.
     
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    The more I read about some of the newer synthetic stimulants and opiates, I start to wonder what exactly was in some of the blends I encountered. They did not give nearly the same effect as the pure chems gave. Some had me nodding off, and some (including the one I smoked regularly) were very speedy. Lots of paranoia, awake 24-72 hours at a time between crashes, auditory hallucinations.

    I'm sure they also had synthetic cannabinoids in them, but I wonder what else was being added to try and differentiate their products from the rest.

    The problem is, most of us will never know, unless there's handy access to a GC/MS machine and someone to operate it.
     
  19. Jlong22

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    Re: Can smoking synthetic marijuana cause vomiting

    Dunwiddit,

    What made you stop? And how did you get help? My fiancé has been addicted to spice for over 2 years now. We have an 11 month old and I am on the verge of leaving him. He smokes spice all day and night. He has completely alienated himself from my son and I as well as friends and family. He spends his nights smoking in the shower. I have tried numerous ways of asking him to stop but he refuses. We no longer can communicate because he rarely listens to a word I say. It's as though I'm talking to a wall because he just stares at me and seems as though he is not really there. Just last night he spent 7 hours vomiting in the shower. I didn't sleep because I kept checking on him every 15minutes to make sure he was still breathing (he has had this happen a lot and complains that he can't breathe and have called ambulance before). I just don't know what else to do. What finally made you stop? Any advice is GREATLY appreciated. I am concerned for his health and I just want the person I fell in love with 5 years ago back.
     
  20. P1-O2

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    Re: Can smoking synthetic marijuana cause vomiting

    First of all you should remember that your fiancé is currently not himself. If he can get clear of these synthetics for a couple of weeks then he'll start to clear up. You need to tell him that he's destroying himself and that he needs to start weaning off. He is probably going to need low doses for about 3-5 days to keep himself from going insane on withdrawals. After that he needs to try staying away from it as long as possible. It might be a good idea to call an addiction specialist or therapist. I wish you the best of luck. He is in serious danger.