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Cleaning Meth

Discussion in 'Methamphetamine' started by smark, Sep 18, 2007.

  1. smark

    smark Silver Member

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    Swim has done his research and found various methods of cleaning meth of all the crap. SWIM acquired some meth, a small amount and after attempting to smoke it discovered that it had been cut with sugar. As sugar dissolves quite quickly in water, swim was wondering what the best cleaning method to use would be to extract the good stuff and leave the crap behind? I would say its a 70/30 mix Meth/sugar as snorting it you dont notice that its been cut so much until you try and smoke it and get a lungfull of caramalizing sugar.

    Why people fuck up a good product just to make a few extra quid is beyond me:thumbsdown:
     
  2. SpeedyDreamer

    SpeedyDreamer Newbie

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    Are you fairly sure it's sugar? Could be it's some kind of food additive or baby formula. Just because it's sweet. Either way, it won't matter. Try this:

    Now there are better ways of doing this project but probably none as easy to get crystals from.



    Ingredients: 91% iso alcohol--Dope

    Tools: 250 ml erlenmeyer flask

    250 ml volumetric flask

    Tall shot glass

    Hot plate

    Acetone

    Paper Towels



    In the volumetric flask, heat iso to boiling. Pour dope in the erl. Add iso slowly to dope stirring and/or shaking-swirling whatever, till all dope is dissolved. At this point if there is anything not dissolved, pour through a filter before continuing. Anything not dissolved is trash. Put this mix on the heat and heat till boiling (low boil).Allow iso to evap until only very small amount left. Pour into tall shot glass. Cover. Allow to cool to room temp then transfer to freezer. Leave overnight. The next morning there will be xtals in the shot glass. Pour these into coffee filter (1) rinse off with cold tone. Pat dry with paper towels. Set aside and allow to dry well (it won't take long)

    Now evap everything you just poured through filter and scrape up. This is tweeker dope from hell. It has all the impurities you just cleaned out of yours. Anything not meth will still be in the solute while the meth crystalizes to itself thus forming the crystals.

    Speedy does need to add that he didn't make this up himself. It is a combo of about 100 different recrystalization tecniques he has read about. One of the most recent he read put him in the right direction for this he just dosen't remember who wrote what he read or he would give proper props to the ones responsible.
     
  3. Siddy

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    Just thought i'd it add, continuing from the above, are you sure its sugar?
    Phenylalanine can be added (artificial sweetener), as it replenishes the amino acid required for corresponding protein.

    Anyway, above method sounds good, thanks SpeedyDreamer.
     
  4. Alfa

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  5. smark

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    SWIM is 100% sure its sugar, swim knows the source will have used this as the cutting agent as they dont have a clue as to how to strech stuff so its less noticable.

    Swim will try to clean it but as its a small amount swim thinks snorting it is the way to go.

    Thanks for the help=)
     
  6. Archenemy

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    Just to point out tho, Methamphetamine is very water soluable.

    ... at leat it wasent cut with MSM, SWIM used to hate getting product cut with that when SWIM would smoke
     
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    Yes, agreed totaly. Since that is true, a cold water wash would leave the sugar solid and the meth woulud be in the water. Just filter out the sugar.
     
  8. iowadsmbadboy

    iowadsmbadboy Silver Member

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    SWIM that lives in Ia only got cut shit for a long time. What might have swim's shit been cut with? Swim said it tasted very nasty and made him visibly gag.
     
  9. SpeedyDreamer

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    That would be MSM. Makes SWISD cough his ass off if he takes 1st or 2nd toke.
     
  10. Archenemy

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    mmmm hmmmm..... takes SWIMS breath away >: ( pisses me off >_<

    In response to iowadsmbadboy;
    SWIY, does it taste nasty, like just flat out disgusting... or does it taste really really bitter? Because Methamphetamine is by nature bitter. MSM is also by nature bitter... SWIM loves the taste of Methamphetamine, which is why SWIM likes to snort, but SWIM has friends who gag on the drip due to its bitter taste.
    so it is hard to taste MSM in Methamphetamine... but you WILL know if you smoke it.
    MSM chemically is Methylsulfonylmethane (C6H6O2S)

    SWIM thinks it may not be cut with MSM, but DMSO. DMSO is Dimethyl Sulfoxide (C2H6OS), and could be used to cut methamphetamine (tho not normally), tho if it is, it taste's horribly like Sulfur.
     
  11. iowadsmbadboy

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    Swim said it tasted HORRIBLE, not at all like meth. He also said when he was new to smoking he actually threw up from it tasting so bad. He also said for about a month this is all he would be able to find.
     
  12. Archenemy

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    That sucks for SWIY, :(
    SWIM hates getting "marginal" shit
    Ask SWIY what form of Methamphetamine it is (Powder/Crystal) and what it looks like (Color/Inconsistencies)

    SWIM thinks it honestly may be some sort of Sulfur compound... or it could be just poorly manufactured.
     
  13. iowadsmbadboy

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    Swim says it was powder with some crystals. He says he has always got clear crystals or white powder.
     
  14. Cakes

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    Lots of SWAN's sugar crystals dissolve in her cold kool-aid water. and lots of meth crystals don't dissolve in her cold meth spoon.
     
  15. mr_pyrex

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    To purify any substance such as meth from adultarants one of the first and most useful ways is to do a simple A/B extraction and the quick rundown of how to to do is as follows-->first you'll need toluene, sodium hydroxide(lye), sulfuric acid and salt...if you don't have access to these then you'll need to go another route and since I am short on time I'm not at this time going to go into explict details but rather the process instead...so you will need to know some chemistry on your part.
    Basically what you do is to dissolve your impure substance meth/crap and mix with water....enough to dissolve all the substance completely and then add more water to dilute out the mixture...anything not dissolving should ideally be filtered out cause it ain't meth and you don't want it around. then next step is to basify the water/meth/crap solution and to do this you mix up some lye with water and do this slowly as heat is generated when mixing the two, by the way water should not be tap water...get bottled water...strength of the solution isn't terribly important.
    Now once you have the lye solution you slowly add this to the water/meth/crap solution while stirring you will probably see the solution turn white momentarily as the meth falls out of solution and then redissolves...keep adding the lye solution until you start to see an oil floating on the surface of the mixture...then ad a bit more since you probably don't have ph papers for checking the ph which should be at 13+....what you have just done is to bring the water/meth/crap from a low ph up to the high 13+ ph and in doing so you have dropped the ph sensitive meth base out of solution which will leave behind non-ph sensitive compounds such as manitol or sugar and alot of other cuts. If you do not have a oil floating on top you either have NO meth in the starting material or you ph isn't high enoughin which case you can add more lye it really isn't going to do much to damage to the meth to overbasify.
    Then you next step is too extract the meth via toluene...which is basically done by mixing a volume of toluene with the basified solution and then gnetly mixing together...GENTLY...not harshly as you'll cause emulsions which is another complete topic. But then do this extraction via toluene which three successive volumes of toluene...combine and dry the toluene if necessary(droplets of water forming on the bottom of the container).
    Then next step is to recover the meth via coverting it to the hydrochloride form and this is done by genrating hydrogen chloride gas by combining salt and sulfuric acid in a suitable container and then ideally drying it through a container of more sulfuric acid...bubbling it through the sulfuric acid since sulfuric acid has a very large affinity for moisture and then bubbling the resulting gas through the toluene and watching the snow clouds appear like a winter blizzard. Such a beautiful and aw inspiring scene, never get tired of seeing it even after many hundreds of time. Assuming the meth gods smile upon you...but if you had oil floating on the basified solution the gods will smile upon you surely. Once you have the snowy toluene mixture all you need to do is to filter the solution through a coffee filter paper and let dry and you meth will be so pure that you won't even recognize it likely ;-)........
    You just keep gassing it til you get no more snow or if you blow on the toluene and you get smokey fuming coming off it...which means it is saturated and you have gone plenty far enough and there will be no more meth appearing no more how much HCL gas you pump into the solvent. Well like I said this is the process and you need some chemistry knowledge to put this if to use otherwise this will be greek to you...and a good text to aquire would be Purification of Laboratory Chemicals or even better for the beginner would be The Organic Chemlab Survival Manual by Zubrick anyways thats all I got time for right now. If there is enough interest I could go into much further details but ya gotta let me know and I'll see if I can accomodate your request. Pyrex out of time;-)
     
  16. wertfun

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    Very well done! lol... more diffucult then producing meth!
     
  17. English_T

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    Actually, that's one of the very basic principles in chemistry and is used widely and as a matter of course in drug 'production' as a method of seperating
    , selectively, the goodies from the baddies. Its used in many clandestine and regular labs and one would be wise to read well...

    ...OR....

    To get an exxcellent grounding in the basic and necessary techniques in chemistry,this is an amazing resource. They have many other subjects, too...
    http://ocw.mit.edu/ans7870/resources/chemvideo/index.htm
    (Think it is in the liquid liquid extraction of Basic techs)
     
  18. SpeedyDreamer

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    That is an excellent resource! Wish SWISD had found that years ago. Thanks, EnglishT. Your are the brains behind the brains. LOL Love ya, man! Later and elsewhere.
     
  19. Chefko

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    AW: Cleaning Meth

    do a acid base extraction or some toluene and acetone washes
     
  20. ?LORD WORM?

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    acid base xtractions are to remove impurites that are real hard to get out..tone washes and np washes are mainly for removing cuts