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Dose - Codeine oral doseage equivalent to hydrocodone oral dose?

Discussion in 'Codeine' started by assman09, Aug 13, 2011.

  1. assman09

    assman09 Newbie

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    My parrot usually takes 20mg of hydrocodone for a good buzz. He was recently perscibed tylenol 3's (30mg codiene / 300mg APAP).

    My parrot was wondering what is the equivalent dosage of oral codeine compared to hydroconde. He looked on google and has a general idea (30mg codiene = 5mg hydro?) but he has been getting mixed comparisons.

    Is there You out there that has experience with both hydrocodone and codeine? and could tell me what the actual equivalent is of say 30mg codeine = ? mg hydro

    thanks alot.
     
  2. RoboCodeine7610

    RoboCodeine7610 Silver Member

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    Codeine is a pro-drug, which means it needs to be metabolized into an active compound in the liver before having an effect.Beecause of genetic variations in liver enzyme systems between individuals, the amount converted varies and so it´s reallly hard to compare it to an actual opiate like hydrocodone.

    However, based on Robo´s experience, he recommends that you start with 200mg and work your way up if needed.

    Robo
     
  3. Synaps

    Synaps Silver Member

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    Hydrocodone is 10x as potent as codeine, so try 200mg codeine. Varies by individual, but seeing as hydrocodone is metabolized by the same enzyme as codeine, 10x should be pretty accurate.
     
  4. assman09

    assman09 Newbie

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    My parrot took 3 of them (90mg codiene 900mg apap) and says he feels pretty good. Not as euphoric as hydrocodone but probably as relaxing.

    Parrot thinks this was a good experience for first time codiene use.
     
  5. RoboCodeine7610

    RoboCodeine7610 Silver Member

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    Euphoria usually comes at doses above 120mg.

    Robo
     
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    Really should get rid of the APAP, too. It's terrible for your liver. See the CWE section here on DF for methods.
     
  7. Descartesx

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    Hydrocodone is an opiod, not true opiate i.e morphine, codeine. Be careful with codeine-- it causes large histamine release, start low first.