Complete List of Opioid Dosages

Discussion in 'Opiates & Opioids' started by PandorymDMT, Oct 7, 2005.

  1. PandorymDMT

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    Scientific Name Trade Name Oral Dose Insufflated Dose Smoked Dose Rectal Dose Injected Dose
    Morphine Morphine 15 - 30 mg 5 - 10 mg 4 - 8 mg 5 - 10 mg 2.5 - 5 mg
    Methylmorphine Codeine 75 - 125 mg 25 - 50 mg 20 - 35 mg 75 - 125 mg 12.5 - 20 mg
    Diacetylmorphine Heroin 50 - 70 mg 5 - 20 mg 5 - 20 mg 50 - 70 mg 5 - 10 mg
    Oxycodone OxyContin 10 - 20 mg 5 - 10 mg 2.5 - 5 mg 10 - 20 mg 2 - 4 mg
    Dihydrocodeinone Vicodin 20 - 60 mg 10 - 30 mg 5 - 15 mg 20 - 60 mg 3 - 10 mg
    Dimorphone Hydromorphone 5 - 8 mg 1 - 2 mg 1 - 2 mg 5 - 8 mg 800 - 1300 µg
    Oxymorphone Opana 6 - 10 mg 2 - 5 mg 1.5 - 2.5 mg 6 - 10 mg 1 - 1.5 mg
    Buprenorphine Suboxone 2 - 8 mg 0.5 - 4 mg 0.5 - 2 mg 2 - 8 mg 350 - 1350 µg
    Fentanyl Actiq 150 - 300 µg 75 - 150 µg 40 - 75 µg 150 - 300 µg 25 - 50 µg
    Tramadol Ultram 100 - 150 mg 50 - 75 mg 25 - 40 mg 100 - 150 mg 15 - 25 mg
    Paramorphine Thebaine 100 - 300 mg 50 - 150 mg 25 - 75 mg 100 - 300 mg 15 - 30 mg
    Etorphine Immobilon 5 - 10 µg 2.5 - 5 µg 1.25 - 2.5 µg 5 - 10 µg 0.8 - 1.6 µg
    Naloxone Narcan δ δ δ δ δ
    Nicomorphine Vilan 5 - 10 mg 2 - 3.5 mg 1.5 - 3 mg 5 - 10 mg 1 - 1.5 mg
    Methadone Methadone 5 - 10 mg 2 - 5 mg 1 - 3 mg 5 - 10 mg 800 - 1600 µg
    Meperidine Demerol 180 - 300 mg 60 - 200 mg 45 - 75 mg 180 - 300 mg 30 - 50 mg
    Alfentanil Alfenta 2 - 4 mg 0.5 - 2 mg 500 - 1000 µg 2 - 4 mg 300 - 700 µg
    Sufentanil Sufenta 20 - 45 µg 10 - 25 µg 5 - 10 µg 20 - 45 µg 3 - 7.5 µg
    Remifentanil Ultiva 150 - 300 µg 75 - 150 µg 40 - 75 µg 150 - 300 µg 25 - 50 µg
    Carfentanyl Wildnil 1 - 3 µg 0.5 - 1.5 µg 0.25 - 0.75 µg 1 - 3 µg 0.17 - 0.5 µg
    Ketobemidone Ketorax 5 - 15 mg 2 - 5 mg 1 - 4 mg 5 - 15 mg 1 - 2.5 mg
    (Dextro)propoxyphene Darvon 120 - 160 mg 60 - 100 mg 30 - 40 mg 120 - 160 mg 20 - 25 mg
    Pentazocine Talwin 50 - 100 mg 20 - 60 mg 10 - 25 mg 50 - 100 mg 8 - 16 mg
    Loperamide Imodium 2 - 4 mg 0.5 - 2 mg 500 - 1000 µg 2 - 4 mg 300 - 700 µg
    Oripavine Oripavine 15 - 30 mg 5 - 10 mg 4 - 8 mg 15 - 30 mg 2.5 - 5 mg
    A-methylfentanyl Alphamethylfentanyl 15 - 30 µg 7.5 - 15 µg 3.75 - 7.5 µg 15 - 30 µg 5 - 10 µg
    Ohmefentanyl Ohmefentanyl 0.5 - 1.5 µg 0.25 - 0.75 µg 0.125 - 0.375 µg 0.5 - 1.5 µg 0.08 - 0.25 µg
    Desmethylprodine MPPP 10 - 25 mg 5 - 10 mg 3 - 6 mg 10 - 25 mg 1.5 - 4 mg
    Allylprodine Allylprodine 1 - 3 mg 0.5 - 1 mg 250 - 750 µg 1 - 3 mg 150 - 500 µg
    Prodine Nisentil 50 - 100 mg 25 - 75 mg 10 - 25 mg 50 - 100 mg 8 - 16 mg
    PEPAP PEPAP 4 - 8 mg 2 - 4 mg 1 - 2 mg 4 - 8 mg 600 - 1400 µg
    Dextromoramide Dimorlin 45 - 90 mg 15 - 45 mg 10 - 25 mg 45 - 90 mg 7.5 - 15 mg
    Bezitramide Burgodin 5 - 10 mg 2 - 5 mg 1 - 2.5 mg 5 - 10 mg 1 - 2 mg
    Piritramide Dipidolor 10 - 25 mg 5 - 10 mg 3 - 6 mg 10 - 25 mg 1.5 - 4 mg
    Dipipanone Diconal 30 - 60 mg 10 - 20 mg 7.5 - 15 mg 30 - 60 mg 5 - 10 mg
    Levacetylmethadol Orlaam 30 - 50 mg 10 - 20 mg 7.5 - 12.5 mg 30 - 50 mg 5 - 8 mg
    Diphenoxylate Lomotil 5 - 10 mg 2 - 5 mg 1 - 2.5 mg 5 - 10 mg 1 - 2 mg
    Dezocine Dalgan 90 - 180 mg 30 - 60 mg 20 - 50 mg 90 - 180 mg 15 - 30 mg
    Phenazocine Narphen 4 - 8 mg 2 - 4 mg 1 - 2 mg 4 - 8 mg 600 - 1400 µg
    Dihydroetorphine Dihydroetorphine 1 - 3 µg 0.5 - 1.5 µg 0.25 - 0.75 µg 1 - 3 µg 0.17 - 0.5 µg
    Butorphanol Stadol 5 - 20 mg 2 - 10 mg 1 - 5 mg 5 - 20 mg 1 - 4 mg
    Nalbuphine Nubain 5 - 10 mg 2 - 5 mg 1 - 2.5 mg 5 - 10 mg 1 - 2 mg
    Levorphanol Levo-Dromoran 2 - 4 mg 0.5 - 2 mg 500 - 1000 µg 2 - 4 mg 300 - 700 µg
    Levomethorphan Levomethorphan 30 - 60 mg 10 - 20 mg 7.5 - 12.5 mg 30 - 60 mg 5 - 10 mg
    Lefetamine Santenol 3 - 6 mg 1 - 2 mg 750 - 1500 mg 3 - 6 mg 500 - 1000 µg
    Meptazinol Meptid 150 - 300 mg 50 - 150 mg 40 - 75 mg 150 - 300 mg 25 - 50 mg
    Tilidine Valoron 75 - 150 mg 25 - 50 mg 20 - 40 mg 75 - 150 mg 12.5 - 25 mg
    Tapentadol Nucynta 100 - 200 mg 50 - 100 mg 25 - 50 mg 100 - 200 mg 15 - 30 mg
    Nalmefene Revex δ δ δ δ δ
    Naltrexone Vivitrol 50 - 100 mg 25 - 50 mg 10 - 25 mg 50 - 100 mg 7.5 - 15 mg
    Papaver somniferum Opium 300 - 500 mg 150 - 250 mg 100 - 125 mg 300 - 500 mg δ
     
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    1. 5/5,
      Good job! Very well structured.
      Apr 21, 2017
    2. 3/5,
      Very concise information. Very useful. Thank you.
      Jun 19, 2016
    3. 4/5,
      Great work but missing O-Desmethyltramadol and AH-7921
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    4. 3/5,
      Most Complete Chart Ive Ever Seen
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    5. 3/5,
      Not Good This needs re assesmant on some opioids 4mg of alfentanyl orally could kill someone opiate tolerant never mind a unxperienced user
      Oct 30, 2013
    6. 5/5,
      An excellent and highly useful reference. Fantastic!!!
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      Very Helpful
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      First rate. Extremely valuable resource. Thank you.
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      It's very detailed.
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      detailed and useful forum contribution, could prevent some dosage errors
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      Very valuable contribution
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    12. 3/5,
      This chart should be it's own thread, just like the benzodiazepine equivalency chart
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      Great work, well done.
      Nov 30, 2009
  2. MrJim

    MrJim Gold Member

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    Ok guys,


    I need everyones help here. There are many great minds in here soSWIM can't wait for input. He gathered the following information from a variety of places and he needs verification and expansion. Think a dosage is Way off? How about another drug left off? How about ANY pertinant information for this list. A wise one said that compiling a list of opioid dosages is something that comes with great responsibility.


    So - This is it - For educational use only
    Opiates are a difficult substance to provide standard dose information about. People all have different natural tolerances to opioids, which can increase dramatically over the course of their personal usage. I have personally known people who went from a 100mg of heroin in a day to trying to catch a similar buzz off of 500mg a day within 4 or 5 months. I have heard of some people using up to 2.5 grams in a day of Heroin after long term addictions.

    OPIUM (refined) - Oral dosages - 1/3 -1/2 gram. Note that opium dosages can vary because every opium has different quantities of active alkaloids in it. Oral is a more risky way to injest because you can't control the dosage as well as with smoking. 2 grams can easily be fatal. (Bogumil - from Opium basics).
    -Smoking - A matchhead sized piece at a time. 0.1 gram. You can feel opium almost instantly when smoked so it is easier to find a safe dosage this way.

    Morphine - For the non-opiate tolerant 10mg, orally should be enough to produce euphoria. Morphine is more bioavailable insufflated and rectally, and for these routes, 5 mg would be enough to start with. Morphine is the bar to which other opiates are measured in terms of relative strength For more info see Fantasian's post - https://drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?&p=159504#post159504

    Codeine - For the non-opiate tolerated a 75-125mg dose should be good to start safely with this drug Insufflation is not advised since this drug usually comes with acetaminophen for most preparations. For more info see Fantasian's post - https://drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?&p=159504#post159504

    Thebaine – Not really a recreational drug in this form –a stimulant which can cause nausea but does act on the opiod receptors (much less at mu receptors than morphine-like substances.

    Heroin (diamorphine) - Rarely seen in pure form since it basically lives as a street drug –Pure heroin dosage for the non-opiate tolerated –5-10mg injected 5-20mg snorted or smoked.

    Oxycodone - for the non-opiate tolerated a 10-15mg oral dose should be sufficient. Insufflated or rectal would be 5-10 mg.

    Hydrocodone, - for the non-opiate tolerant 10-20mg first dose. Insufflation is not advised since this drug usually comes with acetaminophen for most preparations.

    Dihydrocodiene - 60mg would be a safe starting dose for the non-tolerated. Insufflation is not advised since this drug usually comes with acetaminophen for most preparations.

    Hydromorphone, for the non-tolerated 2mg orally would be a safe start. 1-2 mg insufflated.

    Oxymorphone, 1 – 1.5 mg injection, 2 mg orally for a start dose.

    Buprenorphine, - Mixed agonist-antagonist effects. For treatment of opioid addiction. Starting dosage is reflective of level of opioid addiction prior to treatment. "0.5-1mg sublingual or via nasal route are a safe starting point for a non-tolerant novice user. Subutex comes in 2 and 8mg tabs. Sensual effects only develop after about 20-30mins and last 24-48 hours" - Credit - Citizen Kane. For more info see Fantasian's post - https://drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?&p=159504#post159504

    Etorphine, - Not for Human consumption – Too dangerous to measure microgram readings. A scale affected by as little as an air current in the room could cause a measurement dosage large enough to kill someone. 1mg given to a five-year old African elephant knocks it out.

    Naloxone - A Opioid antagonist – not for use unless someone has overdosed. Do not play around with this unless you want to feel violently ill.

    Nicomorphine – more or less equivalent dosages to morphine. 10-30 mg injected is used in the drug clinical trials with significant analgesic effect.

    Methadone – Typically used for maintenance programs to wean people off of opiates therefore the starting dosage is reflective of the level of opioid addiction that the patient suffers. It comes in 5, 10 and 40mg tablets as well as an injectable suspension.

    Meperidine (Demerol), 50 mg would be a safe dose for the non-opiate tolerated first dose in tablet form. Injections would be about 25mg.

    Fentanyl - Normally packaged as a 3-day patch. For injections 0.05mg would be a safe start. 0.1mg smoked. 50-100 times more potent than morphine. For buccal ingestion via Actiq lollipops 100-200 mcg would work for someone with no tolerance.

    Alfentanil – 200-500 micrograms is a typical injection. Short acting and potent it is a drug very similar to fentanyl.

    Sufentanil – 50 microgram injections are used to treat pain. All of these Fentanyl sub-type drugs are extremely easy to overdose on and utmost caution should be used around them.

    Remifentanil – Another of the Fentanyl group. It differs in that it is the first ultrashort acting potent opioid for strong pain relief in a short period of time. Dosage is 0.5-1.0 ug/kg.

    Carfentanyl -Another one not for Human consumption. It has a relative potency of up to 10000 times that of Morphine. Used to sedate large animals.

    Ketobemidone - Dosed similar to Morphine. Normally only available in Scandanavia (credit - Hitme2ice)

    Propoxyphene - (Darvocet) - 120-160mg for the novice user. Insufflation is not advised since this drug usually comes with acetaminophen for most preparations.

    Pentazocine – (Talwin) Often mixed with a opiate antagonist to prevent abuse. 50-100mg orally or 30mg IV is a typical dosage.

    Phenazocine – This one has been discontinued in many countries. 3mg was a typical dose to cause the analgesic effects of about 20mg of Morphine.

    Tramadol (Ultram)– 200mg sustained release tablets are a safe starting point. Due to the size of the pills and the binders in them, snorting is not advised, nor does it seem well-absorbed through this route. Very little recreational effects (disputable) but effective pain killer. For more info see Fantasian's post - https://drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?&p=159504#post159504

    Loperamide – No recreational value – does not cross the blood-brain barrier. Acts on the opioid receptors of the gastrointestinal tract. 2mg relieves diarrhea.

    Always take less of a drug if one is naïve to it. It is better to learn what is not strong enough for you than what is too strong.
     
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    1. 3/5,
      Very good harm reduction!
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    2. 3/5,
      Very informative! Thanks
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      great post good on you man for putting the work in
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      Thanks my friend- just might prevent a death
      Nov 1, 2013
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      One of the most useful posts ever!
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    6. 3/5,
      Very nice information! This will help many people!
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      very good work my friend...and detailed too...not too much info on the lesser known opiates....nice one!
      Oct 21, 2012
    8. 3/5,
      Well written list, containing great information.
      Oct 14, 2012
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      Great post, couldn't find anything on DHC until this!
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      This is absolutely invaluable, thank you.
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      Thank you I have been looking for a chart that wasn't constantly changing for Oral Morphine specifically. Props
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      Great info! very usefull
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      Great Read! Awesome Information packed in here!
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      super helpfull
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      Great advice, thank you!
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      Good work. Although some of the starting doses for no tolerance may be just a bit too high. Just depends more on body weight and the person.
      Jul 21, 2010
    17. 3/5,
      This is great. Actually it is VERY great!
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      Good post, I'll add that 1mg of methadone is approx equiv to 3mg of morphine.
      Mar 17, 2010
    19. 3/5,
      Good job putting all this info in one spot.
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    20. 3/5,
      Comprehensive and informative. This is my new go-to thread!
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      Excellent resource - thank you for the fab effort.
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      Thank you for the information
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    23. 4/5,
      A valuable compilation of dosage info. Quite good as a quick reference for opiates dosages.
      Nov 24, 2009
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      informative post, with clear dosage ranges. keep it up!
      Nov 8, 2009
    25. 3/5,
      Good stuff bro, this'll be helpful to alot of us
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      exellent info
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      great thread, very useful information
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      Possibly the most informitive post I've ever seen
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    29. 3/5,
      great idea, good info
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    30. 3/5,
      great work, interesting and useful list
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      Good!
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    32. 3/5,
      Good info on opiate dose
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      Nice work.
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    34. 3/5,
      Extremely helpful. Thanks.
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      this thread is amazingly awesome and should have a link in the header, though you need to edit your header a bit to fix the format, thought I might as well tell you in this little box, :p
      Jul 1, 2007
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      I can't believe I didn't give you karma for this already!
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      very helpful, thanks
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      Good work!
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    39. 3/5,
      Excellent post. :)
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      great info
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      Great post on various opiates
      May 18, 2006
    42. 3/5,
      Very good post! Excellent compelation of the recommended doses of many opiods. He has been responding to peoples posts and even editing the thread based on others input. definitely a contrbutive member. This post is great for newbies and pros
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  3. mynameisshaun

    mynameisshaun Newbie

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    Nice, :), Very informative.

    Good job [​IMG]
     
  4. neurochem

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    oral morphine has poor biovailbility..... I read somewhere that only 40% of it is actually acive once past the stomach. Injectable morphine whether SubQ, IM, or IV (the latter two) will have dosage requirements similar to oral hydrocodone or oxycodone. so 50mg morph IM will have the same effects as 50mg hydrocodone PO.
     
  5. Be-Bop

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    Indeed MrJim, opiate dosage IS a really difficult one..for those of us habituated to Morpheous's dream-juice, it is so easy to forget what a powerful drug you are fooling 'round with! SWIM generally has two IV doses /day, each one around .3g in terms of 'street' dope,(it has been as high as 2.5g/day, tho' it's hard to keep the sort of income required for that level of consumption going...)obiviously, this is the 'best' that SWIM can get, but he has no idea what the actual purity is?


    I have heard of people who were using A HALFOUNCE of heroin a day!!!!!! I know it sounds really unbelievable..but this guy had done 8 years inside for the bank robberies that he was doing to supplement the dealing that he was doing to support his habit...plus bullshit artists generally have a never ending supply of 'stories', & this guy had only ONE, & the details of it NEVER changed in all the times he told it to me....


    I know other people(again, a dealer) who used 5g/day of pure dope-they were importing it from Thailand in the late '70's & early '80's...but then i have seen people without a tolerance ODing on $10 worth...it is a drug wherein the tolerance of the individual varies incredibly from person to person, as a side-bar to this conversation..does anybody remember when Kurt Cobain died & the people whowere saying he had been 'murdered' used as 'evidence' that he had five times the lethal dose of heroin in his system? What is the lethal dose to someone who has a habit? Smells like conspiracy theorist bullshit to me!


    It seems like the Opiate's have an almost infinite ability to, given the access to the dope, increase an individual's tolerance to the drug! I don't know if there is an 'end-point'..or you could just keep on going up & up....to infinity & beyond!


    Be-Bop [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]Edited by: Be-Bop
     
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      swim agrees t01erance 0n1y seems 2 w0rsen
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  6. icecrew

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    i think once a person starts using too much thats when the big two
    letters OD appear, i mean if u keep going up and up with ur tolarance
    in my opinion a persons body can only handle so much thats why people
    have to be carefull when raising their drug dosage
     
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      But we all know that for big users, higher does mean you risk it if you get surprise high purity
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      Factually inaccurate. Opiate doses can be raised almost without limit. OD is far more likely in an opiate-naive person, or a user who's relapsed.
      Jan 25, 2009
  7. Be-Bop

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    I'd have to disagree with you icecrew (with all respect), maybe with coke, meth et al..yeah, i'd agree...but i have never, ever known a heroin user, who, is using a lot, to od & die...not from heroin anyway...


    I've known quite a few people who HAD big habits, & then have tried to stop..& made it a week, or two, or more.....then (usually) get drunk, decide that they need a 'reward', or something for their 'good work' (or whatever little fucking demon is yakking away at the back of their brain..), score, & forget that their tolerance has dropped, shoot..& 10-20min later..they are DEAD!


    I've also known junkies (active) who have been out of it on pills, or pills & alcohol. or just alcohol..who have died..but i have never known one user who has died from heroin alone! There has always been a 'break', or some other downer in their system.


    This doesn't even address all the recreational users that i have known who have died...but whenever a junky friend of mine is trying to stop..i ALWAYS try & remind them that, IF they DO USE, just to remember that their tolerance will be down, & NOT to do it when they are drunk, or pilled...even tell them, if they have decided to do it..to come over to my place, where i can watch them, & won't pass judgement at their failure..tho', it's a sticky one..coz you don't want to encourage someone to fail..but it seems like it is shame that makes people, when they DO break..to do it by themselves..coz they don't want any of the people-who think they are 'doing so well', to know! & it only takes 5-20min for someone to go from ALIVE to DEAD....& then they are GONE..forever..it's always so fucking sad...fuck...


    Be-Bop.
     
    1. 3/5,
      Being non judgmental increases the likelihood your friend, relative, whoever will trust you enough to allow you to keep them "safe", however safe you can be during a relapse. Very compassionate post .
      Mar 22, 2013
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      good post. I agree totally. I work with all sorts of substance abusers and i have never in my time known a habitual heroin user to OD with just heroin. There has ALWAYS been another downer involved (alcohol and benzo's being the usual culprits).
      Oct 21, 2012
    3. 3/5,
      Very touching and true
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    4. 4/5,
      A very honest, heart-felt, poignant and obviously personally painful to Be-Bop to write. Shows great love though, and excellant harm-reduction advice.
      Oct 14, 2009
  8. sands of time

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    There is a point in which the level of opiates in the system can be toxic to the body, even if there is a massive tolerance. There is an end point, so be careful and don't let the habbit get out of control.
     
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      great harm reduction thanks!
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  9. Be-Bop

    Be-Bop Silver Member

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    Thanks for the concern Sands of Time, but believe me, my finances constrict my using to a level that is a long way from THAT point!!! Actually, it's not even the finance thing..i have used for long enough to realise that i'm NEVER going to recapture that beautiful 'rush' of those first few times!! My using is more about being 'even',& 'happy'...whenever my using has REALLY ESCALATED, & i have been using, say, 4-5 times/day..i don't enjoy it as much!


    I think part of the 'pleasure' of using is to space out the tastes..so that you start to feel that 'need', & then the fulfillment of that need. In fact the 'best' tastes are the ones where you are SICK, & then feel the relief of that sickness..not that i ever wait that long..unless i am forced to!!!!


    Be-Bop [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]
     
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      for all your excellent contributions over time
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  10. Alfa

    Alfa Productive Insomniac Staff Member Administrator

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    When you review all these dosages, can you find any dosage which might be dangerous on a first encounter with the drug? This is essential with dosage advise.
     
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      Yes, this thread would do well to err on the side of caution, a disappointed veteran is better than a blue newbie
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  11. Jeff Woad

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    I agree with all from the list that I can speak of, never tried any of the *.dones or *.phones. Not including methadone- Which is seen more often as a liquid. Someone with no tollerance would take no more than 15-20 ml (1mg/1ml)

    I STRONGLY ADVISE ANYONE WHO HAS COME THIS FAR THROUGH THEIR LIFE WITHOUT TRYING OPIATES/OPIOIDS NOT TO!

    EVERY HEROIN ADDICT IN THE WORLD THOUGHT THEY WOULD BE THE ONE TO NOT BECOME ADDICTED AND BEAT THE SYSTEM.

    IF YOU MUST TRY OPIATES/OIDS, ONCE A MONTH MAX.
     
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      harm reduction
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      Honest and caring post.
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  12. icecrew

    icecrew Newbie

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    yeah, once u start and realize how "good" it makes you feel its the hardest thing in the world to stop because that feeling is just so damn good. stoping doing dope is like the same thing as getting devorced with ur loving wife = ] that sucks ur dingaling every night n what not. but in the other hand its the same wife that wants to cut off ur balls while ur sleep hmm i dunno i guess theres alota ways u could put how hard it is ..me im using as much as i can before im off to jail on jan 10 for like atleast 6-9 month..thats when my stoping will occur BTW .steet dope sucks = [
     
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      Nice analogy.
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  13. AS11

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    You forgot to mention which of these are legal for chemotherapy, I heard Hydrocodone and Fentanyl are but I think there are more.
     
  14. MrJim

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    That's pretty specific - I haven't really mentioned which of these are prescibed for anything. Hydrocodone is prescribed for a variety of things, for example - any sort of pains from a stabbing to a chronic back condition. Most opiods which are prescribed aren't for any one particular condition - they are for pain which occurs in a multitude of ailments. There is only one opiod on that list which can never be used within the boundries of the law- diacytlmorphine, aka Heroin.
     
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    The way people OD is like this...

    Someone trying for the first time and do too much.

    Someone that is in withdrawal and doing a decent amount. If they weren't in withdrawal this dose would be fine, but since they are in withdrawal it is more of a shock to the body.

    Someone that has quit for some time and does too much.

    Someone that has a constant supply and never really sick, will probably never OD. Its still possible of course, but the chance is much smaller than any of the situations above.

    I also agree with the guy above. If you have never used opiates, dont even do it. If you are a responsible person, you *may* get away with it. But chances are you will end up addicted.

    One tip for any shooters. If you are very sick, or have any concern about the amount, do this. Get the shot ready. Hit the vein, and shoot exactly half. Untie the rope and wait. If you feel it in your throat, do not shoot the rest. Even if you don't feel it in the throat, check if you think it is strong, the throat is just a dead give away that it is strong. Then shoot the other half. It is much safer to shoot the shot in 2 parts 30 seconds apart, then all at once. Better yet, split the shot into two from the start, but I know most people don't do this. I usually do the shot in two parts myself, instead two separate shots. But just be careful with heroin.
     
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    You forgot to mention potency differences - Back home it is a big junkie killer. Someone is used to a pile "this big" - then uncut H, or relatively pure H hits the streets and eventhough the pile remains the same size the dose is very different.
     
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    This isn't true all over the world, many European countries prescribe Diamorphene.
     
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      Diamorphine is prescribed during Child Birth IM, in certain UK counties x
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    One really god opioid were not mentioned: Ketobemidone

    Ketobemidone should be dosaged as with morphine, since they both are equal in potency.
    It is probably hard to find Ketobemidone outside Skandinavia. It is a scheduled I substance in the U.S and are rarely used in other countries, except Skandinavia that is.
     
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    Thanks, will add to list.