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CWE/Butalbital?

Discussion in 'Codeine' started by ncsponger, Aug 3, 2007.

  1. ncsponger

    ncsponger Silver Member

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    Hey everyone. First off this is swim's first post and I has truly fallen in love with Drugs-Forum. Now to my question....I have recently come into possesion of about 70 generic Fiorinal. These contain: 30mg codeine phosphate/40mg caffeine/100?mg aspirin/50mg Butalbital(barbiturate).

    I am doing a CWE right now, just getting ready to filter. Does anyone know anything about the solubility properties in water of Butalbital?

    OK, swim just filtered and the water (post filtration) was nearly crystal clear. Swim used 5 capsules so I should have around 150mg of codeine phosphate. There is a good amount of filtrate left in the coffee filter so maybe swim removed the majority of the Butalbital. The only info I found on the solubility properties of the barbiturate was that it takes 1 liter of water to dissolve 1700mg.

    If any of you guys could help I'd appreciate it. I am not going to drink this until I find out a little more about the Butalbital. Oh, yeah Swim ate 2 of the capsules earlier and copped a pretty good opiate high. That's strange too because it normally takes 30mg of oxycodone to get swim going. Maybe it was the barb'?
     
  2. ncsponger

    ncsponger Silver Member

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    The CWE with Fiorinal seems to have worked well. SWIM drank the extraction very quickly(pretty nasty by the way!) and felt opiate effects within 20-30 minutes. Almost immediately a strong caffeine buzz kicked in(around 200mg), but it subsided within 20 minutes. The caffeine really retracts from the innitial opiate effects.

    I do think a minor amount of the barbiturate passed into the extraction, but not too much. SWIM only felt a minor barb' effect. I was pretty confident that the CWE would remove the Butalbital after I found a document on the internet that stated "Butalbital is slightly soluble in cold water."

    SWIM put emphasis on keeping the solution very cold through out the entire process, and even though the filtered solution was crystal clear, I did a second ice-cold filtration through two coffee filter just to be sure.

    Overall I think this was succesful and he appreciates all the info on Drugs-Forum........................Now if SWIM can just find a way to remove the Da$% caffeine!!! If he tried to take 240mg codeine, that would be around 320mg of caffeine. NO THANKS.:thumbsdown:
     
  3. Bajeda

    Bajeda Super Moderator Platinum Member & Advisor Supporter

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    My panda would like to emphasize that he didn't really enjoy any of the experiences he had with butalbital, even the ones where he got fairly strong effects. Its not a very good barbituate, and not even a very good drug. This is just panda's opinion. For him, a CWE probably wouldn't be worth the effort, even if you had free pills.

    Not sure about how much Butalbital would be actually extracted with such a CWE, but it would be hard to really tell in any case unless alot was taken. To reiterate, this isn't worth the effort in my panda's view.
     
  4. Ethyl

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