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Oral use - Dissolve in mouth

Discussion in 'Ecstasy & MDMA' started by bostonnew, Apr 4, 2010.

  1. bostonnew

    bostonnew Silver Member

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    Hi everyone,

    Swim is trying to get some powder MDMA. He has read that keeping it (say, 100mg) in the mouth for a while instead of swallowing it will give a more rapid and stronger effect. I guess the reasoning is that the stomach acid is kind of tough on it and that this can somehow be bypassed(?).

    Do you know if this is true?

    Swim's biggest concern is not getting bang for the buck, but being able to control the effect very precisely; to be safe. He figures that a rapid absorption via this technique would be the best way to achieve that as there will be less of a time lag in which one sits and wonder how hard it's going to hit. If the method works, perhaps a really precise control can be achieved by taking, e.g. 5x20mg this way, perhaps with half an hour between each bite.

    Swim has been reading about other methods (e.g. snorting and such) and current conclusion is that while they probably provides that more rapid effect they also have a higher risk for harmful side effects.

    Thanks!
     
  2. Neznam

    Neznam Silver Member

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    Do not snort... it is very painful and harmful to ones health. One may never know if the powder is pure mdma or contains adulterants that really are not meant to be snorted.

    Stick to eating them... or dissolving under the tongue. Parachuting is another way to absorb faster... which is when one crushes the pill and wraps it in a small piece of toilet paper and eats it, the powder gets absorbed faster.
     
  3. elementality0x

    elementality0x Titanium Member

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    If it's powder MDMA, Cat would really just swallow it. Molly is beautiful and calm. If SWIY wants it to hit harder he would parachute it (wrap it up in some tissue paper and swallow it). That'll hit harder and sticking it under the tongue will taste like fuckin shit. Not worth it in Cat's opinion...
     
  4. Intoxicating Ecstasy

    Intoxicating Ecstasy Newbie

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    if possible capsule it and swallow. Swiy could keep about 20-30mg and snort it later to keep swiy's roll going or enhance it (snorting can be annoying but is tolerable).

    Also, Swiy could cap two 75g capsules and pop one wait an hour or two and pop the other.
     
  5. avcpl

    avcpl Silver Member

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    Swim tried dissolving half a pill under his tongue his last roll. It worked but the next day it was swollen and painful and lasted several days. The pills were tested with ez-test and had good reports (blue star pokeballs). It may be that Swim has an allergic reaction to mdma or something else was in there that eztest can't detect. Swim has sent one of these pills into a lab for analysis!
     
  6. bostonnew

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    Ok, thanks. Doesn't sound like it's worth it. Swims plan will then be to swallow in powder form without capsuling it. Rationale is that greater surface area interaction will produce a more immediate effect as he doesn't have to wait for stomach acid to burn through the gel cap.

    Having browsed some threads, opinions seem to be divided as to whether one should consume the entire dose of the night (say 150mg) in one go or do 75mg to start with and then boost with 75mg later. Swim will try the former this month and the latter next month to see what works for him.

    Please correct if something is misunderstood.
     
  7. Priapism9

    Priapism9 Silver Member

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    Even though swim is becoming a seasoned veteran of MDMA swim still always takes it in small doses. Never a full pill. Thats just SWIM though. I usually hack off a half and take it. Wait an hour or two. Peak, and then take the rest. This way SWIM controls the experience, and feels like he is being more responsible. SWIM sees no need to pop an entire quantity up front.
     
  8. bostonnew

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    Swim's apologies if this question has been answered already, but he can't find something conclusive:

    Is the difference between crushing+swallowing an E pill vs. simply swallowing it purely a matter of duration/peak. I.e. with the former it will hit earlier and stronger and end earlier. And you just need to be comfortable with the drug if you choose to do it as the effect may catch you off guard.

    The exact same question would go for caffeine pills or Adderall, btw. For all these three drugs, Swim would be interested in a rapid & strong effect, rather than an extended weak one. Does that mean he should always crush+swallow?

    He doesn't want to snort anything.
     
  9. Priapism9

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    I think the main difference is acid like you pointed out. Sublingual dosing is always fast and more direct. With amphetamines my understanding is that acid can really kill their strength. Mouth is definitely less acidic than stomach. I see people chewing them a lot. Not sure what the logic is there - really its absorbing in the mouth that way, but then they swallow. So ... I guess the idea is ... faster both via the mouth tissue and faster in the stomach because its crushed ....

    By the way swim wants to amend his previous comment. Doing the small dosing worked the first few times, but swim has sometimes found (due to the many factors that come into play) that half-dosing and waiting sometimes results in zilch. That was a serious bummer when swim and 4 friends half dosed and waited nearly 2 hours for nothing. Maybe we had some food in our stomachs still. Maybe it was a new environment and we were all a little nervous. Maybe it was the fact that we were a bit tired from the night before. But we learned that MDMA is supposed to be dosed at a full 100-125mg up front. And then 40mg (or half pill) after a few hours to maintain. Its not intended to be taken in teeny weeny bits every half hour. Flood gates need to be opened, then kept open. Otherwise no flood occurrs.

    -P-
     
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