DMT and 5-meo-DMT

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  1. QGdoxl

    QGdoxl Gold Member

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    What is the difference? other than one is from a plant and the
    other is a chem. do thy have the same effects? How about
    compared to salvia?
     
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    Ive never done DMT, but i can say 5meo is MUCH more pleasent
    buzz than salvia. A little bit of the crazyness is there when its
    smoked, but its a much better body buzz and overall happy feeling,
    instead of an uncomfortable mindfuck like salvia.
     
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    DMT is better than 5-MeO-DMT and both are a million times better than
    salvia. I have a personal bias against salvia because whenever I smoke
    it I spend millions of years being tortured by zillions of people who
    all look lthe same, but it is still widely accepted that salvia is not
    a "useful" drug in the insightful sense.



    DMT is like 5-MeO-DMT with a lot more visuals, a tolerable body buzz, and more insight. Both can be VERY freaky,

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    thanks that explains a bit. as for both of them can be very freaky so can salvia!
     
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    Each person will have their own preferences for one or the
    other. The "experience reports" on Erowid provide a rather good
    idea of the spectrum of effects of n,n-DMT and 5-MeO-DMT. To
    compare them briefly, one could say that DMT is more fluid, VERY
    visual/colourful, and can sometimes induce "entity contact"; whereas
    5-MeO is electric/kundalini-esque, blinding white-lightning, euphoric/"rushy"
    to the point of overstimulation/"orgasms", non-colourful (white and gold
    mostly) and more "energy-like", and doesn't induce entity contact but
    does sometimes create a sense of a onerous, god-like, cosmic "other"
    that is the Mother of All Consciousness. If you were to compare
    them, DMT is more like a very high dose of mushrooms, and 5-MeO
    is more like a plus-three ketamine trip. Both are intense and
    rewarding, and deserve your respect.

    Also, even though most of the n,n-DMT you will encounter is
    extracted from Mimosa, and the 5-MeO-DMT is made synthetically, they
    are both found in nature in both plants and animals, and both can be
    made synthetically in the lab as well.

    Remember, some people "love" Salvia and dislike DMT, some are
    quite fond of 5-MeO and rather dislike Salvia, some appreciate all
    three for different reasons, etc., etc. Each one has different
    effects/qualities, and the given individual using the substance as well
    as his/her "set-and-setting" in which the substance is consumed can
    have as much (if not more) influence on the subjective experience that
    person has as does the specific effect(s) of the particular substance
    itself. .

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    oh yes I understand that substances affect people in different ways,
    you can never tell someone that a drug will feel "exactly like this"
    but your summery was the best I've heard so far!



    I don't so much as like the trip off salvia but am more interested in
    the effects. I don't do it for recreation but for exploring the
    substance and what it does to me.



    from your sum up it sounds to me like I may perfer DMT to 5meo and
    possibly even salvia. Who knows maybee one day I will aquire
    some and swim and swimgf may just try it.
     
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    oh cool I love when the books are online and free!
     
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    mariecurie Newbie

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    Eirias, your descriptions were very accurate and enlightening. I never
    thought to describe 5-MeO that way before, but it's definitely correct.
    Never broken all the way through on DMT, but I look forward to it.



    I particularly am thankful for your parallels of DMT to mushrooms and
    5-MeO to ketamine because I have never done ketamine or broken through
    on DMT, so I have a much better perspective now [​IMG]
     
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    Thanks, but keep in mind that they are all still unique
    substances, and the comparisons I offered are but rough approximations..
     
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    I has done Ketemine a few times but never more than a "+" maybee hit the "++" just touched it



    but ketemine scares swim for some reason. He likes small doses
    just bumps to just feel it. Never been in a k hole the closest
    thing was the fist time. He snorted a line and was totally
    suprised by the power and intensity I went to bed for an hour and
    then returned to his friends.