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Snorting - Dormin cut Dope and insufflation

Discussion in 'Heroin' started by benderman, Jul 23, 2010.

  1. benderman

    benderman Silver Member

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    My Friend recently moved to a new city and can only get heroin that is cut with Dormin (diphenhydramine). He is a snorter and this stuff seems to be best for shooting. Will Dormin interfere with absorbtion in the sinus? Will the Dormin itself be absorbed through mucous membranes? thanks for any help
     
  2. dyingtomorrow

    dyingtomorrow Palladium Member R.I.P.

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    In Chicago pretty much all the dope is cut with Dormin. I would say it improves the feeling of the dope by like 50% when you inject - makes it a lot, lot smoother. I am in Detroit now and just getting semi-pure rocks, and they don't feel nearly as good as Dormin-cut heroin.

    Regarding snorting, SWIM started out just snorting it. I am not really sure if the Dormin is absorbed nasally, but doesn't think it has an effect on the feeling/quality the dope the same way shooting it does.

    SWIM will also add, it was okay when I was only snorting 2-3 bags a day. When I got up to snorting 5+ bags a day of Dormin-cut heroin, he developed really bad lung problems. His lungs were constantly weezing, and it got to the point where he literally could not walk across the room without gasping for breath. It took him about 2 hours to struggle to walk to an urgent care clinic (which would otherwise have been a 10-15 minute walk for him) and they said his lungs were extremely inflamed and gave him steroids and an asthma alleviating drug. The same thing happened to his brother, and his brother told him that when he went to the clinic, the doctor told him he sees this type of lung problem in a lot in heroin addicts who snort the dope around Chicago.

    I went on to injecting it and didn't have a problem after that. But from what I have experienced, seen, and heard from others, Dormin-cut seems very likely to be what causes these serious lung problems.
     
  3. benderman

    benderman Silver Member

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    Thanks for the heads up Man. So far this is the purest shit my friend can find around chi-town. Who knew ohio had purer dope than chicago? He can already tell this shit is fuckin up his nose.

    benderman added 13 Minutes and 37 Seconds later...

    P.s. do you think the bigger chunks are dormin and the finer white powder is the dope? Maybe he shouldn't spend so much time chopping it up so fine.
     
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  4. dyingtomorrow

    dyingtomorrow Palladium Member R.I.P.

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    I was able to buy raw dope, but only after he had been spending a shitload of money and finally got the dealer to sell him half OZs of raw. Almost all of the street dope you'll find in Chi is Dormin-ated. Like I said it's awesome for shooting (better than pure dope in SWIM's opinion), not so much for snorting.

    You can find some of the different kinds of dope around Chicago, although they aren't as prevalent. If you can find some of the brownish powdered shit it is the best for snorting, but again it's something you have to really seek out and get lucky with a connect. The dudes on the corner in the ghetto selling mostly to homeless people aren't gonna have it.

    And to answer your question, the fine white powder is the Dormin. Just another factoid - bags will sometimes have pink or blue chips in them, which are the Dormin cases.
     
  5. benderman

    benderman Silver Member

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    Thanks again man. Yeah, definitely pink flecks in the bags. My friends science experiments are telling him that Dormin must be readily absorbed through mucous membranes, because he just realized, he's been nodding on the shit for a week and hasn't hardly had the itchies at all. Antihistamines, really work.
     
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    Update:

    I started to experience some of the symptoms dyingtomorrow mentioned. Swim thought he would share some of the tricks he has learned for getting less potentially dangerous powder in his lungs. This is is assuming the user has water-soluble powder heroin. (which most powder in the U.S. is)

    1. Always snort small bumps no matter how much you intend to do.
    2. Snort fast and hard and stop inhaling as soon as the dope is off the surface it was on. This helps it to run into the mucous membranes in your sinus, so it doesn’t continue don your esophagus.
    3. Always use a straw and GENTLY insert it high into the nose. (cut off Bic pen works well)
    4. If your sinuses are dry from previous dope use, snort a little water before you snort the dope.
    5. After a couple bumps in each nostril, bend your neck forward and lean over like you are looking backwards between your knees. This causes more blood to flow to your sinuses, so it can carry the dope to your brain. It also gives the dope more time to absorb, before it runs down your throat.

    Swim hopes this helps. Since he has been doing these things, he no longer has breathing problems.
     
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    I would actually say that you should snort lightly to try and just get the dope in your nose and sinuses. The problem is if you are snorting a lot of Dormin dope, the Dormin gets in your lungs, and that's what causes the (pretty serious) lung problems. You can minimalize that to some degree by not snorting too hard.

    SWIM also recommends, when snorting (anything), to always snort a little water like bender said before. Then blow your nose out really well. I believe this helps with absorption and to keep the powder in the nose and sinuses.
     
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    is dormin put it to stop ichin? sorry just wondering, swim never done herion but has done opiates and he never minded the inch maybe cause it meant he was good and high.
     
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    It's put in to increase profits for the dealer, and increase the nod for the user. It also helps with the itches because it's an antihistamine.

    ~Kailey
     
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    yeah. it really does a number on the lungs. expecially if swiys the type to take a shot and smoke a shitload of cigarettes like swim.
     
  11. Ill~Will

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    Swim says that back home in a large city near Chicago most
    users preferred buying their china cut with dormin rather then
    the raw. The dormin seems to make the nod come on stronger.

    ^ Kailey beat swim too it.
     
  12. Solinari

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    This stuff is also known as "cheese", it's diphenhydramine mixed with heroin, sometimes it's got paracetamol in it too. This is usually cut into black tar and the white powder of the diphenhydramine gives it a yellow colour, hence the name cheese.

    It was supposed to be aimed mainly at kinds and supposedly it was so it could be snorted more easily, best to stay away from it, not because of the diphenhydramine so much but because it will be low quality crap.
     
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    The blue chips in the dope are usually from Sleepinal, another Diphenhydramine-based sleep aid. I think Sleepinal sucks and that Dormin is an excellent adulterant. Many shops on the WS sell it openly, which is nice because one would not have to go to a web site to get it...

    Definitely nice to have this around, especially if one thinks of whacking a gram or 2 :)
     
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    Dope in the Chi is definately not Tar mixed with Dorm. I have never seen or known anyone thats seen black tar anywhere around Chi. The raw thats in rock for, when smashhed with a card turns to powder which tar does not. Also dorm for sure increases the high when snorting. When I first came across raw i thought it was garbage because the pre cut bags were getting me higher. Then I started cutting my own dope with dorm and now I would never do raw without it because I would feel its a waste of D