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Oral use - drinking meth

Discussion in 'Methamphetamine' started by marcussurvivor, Mar 23, 2013.

  1. marcussurvivor

    marcussurvivor Newbie

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    Is drinking crystal meth mixed in a shot of water less toxic on the body than other methods of administartion? Are there less side effects and is recovery better when meth is taken this way alone and not combined with other methods of administration?
     
  2. Szgeti

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    I can't say for sure, but I have HEARD that oral use has the least impact on your body. But really, no way of using meth is going to be good for you.
     
  3. CanadianBakin

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    Every ROA (route of administration) affects the body in it's own way. It's really hard to definitively compare which ROA's are the worst for your body overall, considering all the different ways meth affects a person.

    In my opinion, smoking is the most physically harmful ROA. One line of meth might be bad for your nose, but if you were to smoke that line instead, you'd probably get at least 5 or 6 hits out of it. Filling a crucial organ with smoke 6 times to me seems like a much less healthy way to ingest the drug than to just put some up your nose... Injecting is actually a very safe method in terms of physical damage, despite what many people think. This doesn't mean it's safe however because the drug becomes a whole new beast once you get into IV.

    Now, as far as ingesting meth orally, I think most experienced meth users would agree that it is safe to say, this is the least physically harmful ROA. However, I have heard that repeated oral use of speed or meth can be very dangerous to your stomach lining because of meth's caustic nature. I used to do speed caps, and I would pop so many every week, only to find out from another user of these caps a while later that speed is very bad for the stomach line if ingested orally too often, and he advised me to switch it up a bit and maybe stop orally ingesting them for a few weeks at least. Infrequent or very occasional oral use however shouldn't pose any problems to an average human stomach.

    Another reason I think oral ingestion of meth wreaks less havoc on the body... Usually when people take their meth orally, they take one very large dose, and trip out for a while until they come down - This ROA is often used more for a recreational, "one night of fun" experience. If enough is eaten, it hits you hard and strong, and gives a strong rush of euphoria. It lasts 5-10 hours generally, then the comedown is sudden. This ROA makes meth seem closer to MDMA than any other ROA. There are daily addicts out there though I'm sure that take there meth orally.

    In my opinion, using only this ROA, without combining any other ROA's, probably would result in an easier comedown than to say if you were smoking all night as well. Again, thats because you usually take a very large dose, if not everything you have in one dose, thus resulting in a much shorter duration trip than other ROA's provide. The reason I think smoking comedowns are generally worse, is because usually smoking provides a long duration high, which allows for more time for your body to be awake and get worn out. Also, though the oral method doesn't last as long normally, it's supposed to provide a more prominent rush and more powerful euphoric effects. I never heard of people eating a tiny little shard here and there every hour or two, like a smoker would do for example.

    Also, I believe oral ingestion provides the lowest bio-availability of any other ROA. I forget what the exact percentage is, but it's quite a bit lower than the other ROA's. This means in a nutshell, say you eat a quarter gram (.25) - your stomach won't absorb and make use of that entire .25, some of it won't be absorbed. Injecting that .25 would virtually make use of 100% of the .25 - So technically speaking, oral ingestion of meth is the least cost-effective way of doing it. However, if someone is looking for the specific high that oral ingestion of meth provides, then this factor is overlooked, especially since meth is generally inexpensive compared to other drugs anyway.

    The next highest bio-availability is nasal insufflation, then smoking provides a bit more, than right near the top to many peoples surprise is anal administration. Then of course the highest bio-availability is intravenous injection, which is virtually 100%.

    The low bio-availability of oral ingestion probably also plays a factor in how mild or sever the side effects and recovery is. If you inject a half gram, you're body is effected by 100% of it, if you eat it, your body is only effected by whatever percent oral bio-availability for meth is (I believe it's something like 60%, don't quote me)

    So overall, the four other ROA's are hard to compare in terms of how bad the comedown/recovery is... They can be similar to the point where many people argue with which ROA is more effective/conservative/powerful. Oral administration however, I think in my opinion, it's safe to say one can expect a milder comedown, and fewer negative side effects. Though, as Szgeti said, it still is meth at the end of the day, and it's a bad drug for your body no matter how you take it, and most people find the comedown to be pretty harsh. Personally I think meth comedowns are a breeze compared to coke.

    I've heard people say the oral high from meth is much less "antsy" than smoking or IV. Personally, I've only eaten meth twice, and I agree. I don't like eating meth, because as an addict, this just is not the most conservative way to use meth, and is harder to control your dosing. If someone isn't an addict and is going to a rave or something for example, than oral ingestion might be the most ideal choice.

    If you're gonna do it, make sure that shot goes down quick haha, it's not super pleasant to swallow :p - It's not that bad... Once I did a shot of MDMA mixed into water... That I will NEVER do again haha *gags*

    cheers, hope I helped a bit.

    CB
     
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  4. marcussurvivor

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    Thank you canadianbakin for your very informative response and for your time. This definitely helps a lot. You make some great points.
     
  5. StnrGirl

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    Anal administration in my opinion gives a stronger sensation than smoking and lasts longer, though there are contributing factors for each that could affect results for good or bad.
    On a side note I've found it to be a more motivating high to most people compared to the "tweek on couch" kind of reaction that comes from sitting around waiting for a bowl to come your way. Compared to doing a good plug (anal dose), letting it sit/absorb for 5-10 mins, then feeling free to wander and be more productive.
     
  6. OliverW

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    Try not to throw up.

    OliverW added 2 Minutes and 41 Seconds later...

    just thought i'd put that out there.
     
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  7. Frosty-Sunrise

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    In my opinion, meth taken orally has some of the best effects and the least harsh comedown. This probably wont be true with everybody, and canadianbacon was right, its hard to gauge how harmful each ROA is because theyre all affecting different parts of the body. But all in all, I would have to say that oral use is the way to go.

    Im a frequent user, and used to smoke my stuff all the time. Thats the only way I would do it. But the onset is so quick, and for me the high didnt last that long, which always left me fiending for more. In this way, I wasnt being conservative at all. I didnt have enough self control to stop smoking so Id be up for days until I would run out, or just black out randomly while I was in the middle of a bowl.

    Got sober for awhile, and now that Im back to the crystal, oral use is the only way Ill allow myself to do it. I find that by dosing only one to two times a day, its not always on my mind like it used to be. And its not affecting my body nearly as bad as it used to. I havent lost much weight, I dont stay up for days (which IMO is the most harmful part of the drug), and the comedown is hardly noticeable.

    Just a tip though, if youre interested in oral use, I would parachute the meth instead of drinking it. Just take your dose, fold it up into a little square of tissue or toilet paper, and swallow with a glass of water. Same exact thing as drinking it, just the bitter taste never reaches your tongue.

    Hopefully I was able to help a little bit, thanks guys.
     
  8. ladylikes

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    I find using a capsule is the easiest way to do it orally. I get a bottle if vitamins empty out what's in it put my meth in and swallow. Makes for easy redose if your out in about to.
     
  9. 420_easter

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    i've read on several trusted sites that oral is the safest way of doing it as it goes threw i can't remember whether it was your liver or kidneys or both but those organs are designed to removed toxins and if you're talking about street meth that is in my opinion a very good addition with the high it's going to be a slower start with not so much of a rush as any other way also the bioavailability of meth threw oral injestion is 60-65% i.ving and anal having 98-100% smoking having somewhere between 80-90% (can't remember exact on that) and insuffication having 70-75% these are statistics i've seen i am not a professional so these are just the statistic's i've seen on trusted websites.
     
  10. rubrnekr

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    I'm primarily a smoker, but I do like to parachute from time to time, and I agree that it's a great way to go for someone who's primarily talking of occasional recreational use. It's a different type of high, but a good one for going out dancing or being productive (as others have said). However...

    I don't think that taking orally as your daily ROA is such a good idea. I'm not in the medic profession, and I think I'm admittedly uneducated about this particular topic, but I do seem to recall stories of stomach ulcers and/or other stomach problems resulting from to much oral ingestion. I could be wrong, but considering how sensitive our stomachs actually are, I just think it might be a better idea to mix it up a little and combine methods so-as to hopefully cause less damage to any one organ...

    (I'm actually trying to do that more lately as well by cutting back my smoking in favor of lines or booty bumps instead. And trying to decrease consumption as a whole...)

    This is just my opinion though and, unfortunately, not based on any facts...
     
  11. Frosty-Sunrise

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    Rubrnekr, I appreciate your insight, and have to agree that frequent oral use cant be too good for your stomach. The diarrhea is a bitch, and over a longer period of time serious complications can arise from this ROA. Just like any other ROA, too much can be a very bad thing.

    I really like your idea of mixing it up, and I feel like thats a good way to avoid some of the health problems that can go along with meth use.

    But anyway, I reread my post, and realized that I didnt really answer the question that well. As rubrnekr stated, oral use can be rather detrimental. I guess I was answering the question in terms of mental health and addiction, as opposed to physical health and well being.
     
  12. Codoxy

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    ^^What if you take antacids or gastric demulcent such as omeprazole or this kind of ulcer medication Like 15-30 MIN before drinking diluted crystal. Will it prevent damages to the stomach and the whole GI maze or will it just decrease the crystals absorption into bloodstream...I dont know how it is metabolized...

    Im just curious. I just kicked opiate today and staying sober is a bitch during paws. I havent yet registered to a gym and do not have a lot to do so Im pretty much stuck with thoughts of getting high all day. I can't take opiate but I figured I can still get high to keep my head off my DOC (H). So I figured Ill score some coke to give me a boost and mood lift in the mornin or whenever I need to be productive. But I had my hands on crystal before getting the ye. Im not trying to binge or anything Im just trying to boost myself into active life again.

    Being such a dangerous substance Im pretty concerned that I might damage myself even more as my brain is supposed to be left alone to get back to normal. But damn a little bump goes a long way and put me on my feet like Im not going through paws. I won't do it everyday and the methhead lifestyle disgusts me and Im more of a downer guy so Ill do everything not to get addicted, I just want to be functional during the first days of paws so I can register to a gym and be on my feet with energy to do stuff.

    Im talking about half a point insufflated every other day or 2 days in a row max. I have no experience whatsoever with meth so can somebody please tell me what they think about what Im trying to do, and the potential harm this dose and frequency can bring into my life.

    Thanks for your answers.

    CODODO
     
  13. Ef5757

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    Sounds to me like a mistake I made , and excuses I used . I too used to be a big time opiate addict 35-40 norcos a day for 5 years I was an addict and just quit cold turkey on March 24th 2015 so I've been a year and 3 months clean , believe me or don't believe me I don't mind the critique. During this hell on earth withdrawls and the constant ups and downs I too tried that amphetamine route, and I too said the exact same things you said "ohh I won't get addicted I'm a downer guy " . Thing you need to see here bud is were addicts wether or not it's to downers or uppers , only difference between a downer addict and an Upper is the drug of their choice . As an addict I would say save yourself the hassle of trading one addiction for another. Save yourself from the constant lies your gonna tell yourself when coming to find out your back to square root one , shit save me my time writing this and make it useful lol. All in all were all gonna have to learn the hard way. I did , I seen these exact threads before about this exact same topic , that didn't stop me . Once I read a quote and that quote was the only thing that keeps me going today and it was " Why lose everything for one thing, When you can lose that one thing for everything ". Let that sink in for awhile . Remember once and addict will always be an addict , that doesn't mean we're in a addiction , it just means we have that addictive tendencies and personality, so why quit opiates for nothing , you can only switch out addictions for so long until you run out of substances then your right back to opiates. Take it or leave it bud good luck to you.
     
  14. euphoria888

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    How muchdo you need to take it orally? I have tried to dose it almost every way except injection and oral.
    How long the high last you and how it's like?
    I also agree that booty bumping is such a greaaaat high! Best hig of all ROAs.