DXM/school kids/future laws/blame the internet

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  1. wellhelm

    wellhelm Silver Member

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    7 sick from cough drug

    Union Mine High hit by apparent overdose of common medicine.

    By Crystal Carreon and Christina Jewett - Bee Staff Writers

    Published 12:00 am PDT Wednesday, October 11, 2006
    Story appeared in METRO section, Page B1
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    Seven El Dorado County high school students were taken to a hospital Tuesday after apparently overdosing on a common cold medication to get high, a trend that puts authorities on alert and tests the limits of the law.
    "It's a reminder of how serious all chemicals are," said Carl Fickle, principal at Union Mine High School in El Dorado, where the medical calls occurred. "Something we perceive as harmless, such as cold medications, can have serious consequences."
    Ambulances arrived at the Koki Lane campus shortly before 11 a.m. when it was discovered that a group of students -- one boy and six girls -- had downed several gel caps of a generic version of Coricidin in a restroom earlier in the day, said Lt. Kevin House, spokesman for the El Dorado County Sheriff's Department.
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    Several students had complained of nausea and feeling high, House said. One student vomited outside a classroom. Another student, who had not ingested the drug, was taken to the hospital as a precaution.
    By Tuesday afternoon, all of the students had been treated and released from Marshall Medical Center in Placerville. Their identities were not made public. Authorities said it is unclear if any criminal citations would be issued against the girl who brought the cold medication to school.
    But the case quickly became a textbook eye-opener.
    "From the law enforcement standpoint, it made us become more aware," said House, who could not recall any previous accounts of youths abusing cold medication.
    Fickle met with parents and explained what had happened at the school.
    "It's pretty rare," Fickle said of his students abusing drugs. "It's just another version of alcohol or drugs that occasionally find their way to our campus."
    Coricidin, usually marketed as a cold medication for people with hypertension, contains dextromethorphan, or DXM, a cough suppressant commonly found in other over-the-counter drugs. If abused, the drug can trigger hallucinations, similar to those of a PCP high, that can cause users to act bizarrely, said Sgt. Helena Williams, who oversees drug recognition education for the California Highway Patrol.
    "It's very dangerous, depending on level of influence," she said. "If you get to a state ... like PCP, then you don't know what you're doing. You can become injured, can injure others or be violated in any way."
    Williams said the CHP has recently launched a program aimed at training educators to recognize students' abuse of the cold medicine, as well as other drugs. She said teenagers have been known to take 16 to 20 gel capsules of Coricidin, or drink an entire bottle of Robitussin, which also contains the active ingredient DXM, to get high.
    The abuse appears to be growing. The Sacramento Division of the California Poison Control System reported a blip in the medication's abuse about two years ago. Across the country, teenagers misusing DXM doubled from 2000 to 2003, according to the American Association of Poison Control Centers. And a 2005 survey of more than 7,000 teenagers found that one in 11 had abused over-the-counter cough medicines containing DXM, according to the Partnership for a Drug-Free America, which conducted the survey.
    Sacramento police and sheriff's officials reported no significant problems with the medication, though.
    Williams and other authorities said they were concerned about the seemingly growing trend to post drug exploits online, through Internet blogs and other popular sites such as MySpace.com.
    "On the information highway called the Internet, kids are exchanging new ways of using drugs we would not conceive of as adults," she said.
    House said detectives will begin looking into whether any Internet postings affected what happened on the Union Mine campus. He said the school's resources officer had mentioned the popularity of the Web to exchange information about abusing cold medication, but he didn't know if it played a role in Tuesday's incident.
    He said he also was unsure what laws might have been broken by the student who brought the cold medication to school.
    Over the years, there have been attempts to prohibit the sale of drugs containing DXM to minors, but none has been successful.
    A bill that would have regulated the sale of such medications stalled this year in the California Senate. The bill, by Sen. Joe Simitian, D-Palo Alto, would have made it an infraction to sell medicine containing DXM to a minor.
    The bill would have required clerks to check the identification of customers buying the medicine.

    7 sick from cough drug

    Stupid kids = stupid laws. and why not blame the internet
     
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  2. Paracelsus

    Paracelsus Platinum Member & Advisor

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    I don't encourage drug abuse by minors, but I think sending somebody to the hospital just because he's high is wrong. If they don't bring somebody to the hospital when he's a little drunk, why bring somebody who acts strange to the hospital.

    On a first or second plateau dose of DXM, you definitlely know what you're doing. You can't walk in a straight line and shit, but you still have control over yourself. And even higher doses, which can induce a delirium-like state of mind, don't lead to violence.
     
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  3. Nagognog2

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    "Another student, who had not ingested the drug, was taken to the hospital as a precaution."

    Now this strikes me as rather odd.
     
  4. antigenesis

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    Yeah, how the hell do you take someone uninvolved to a hospital, and how would that be precautionary? "Look at that little Johnny, those are dopers! You don't want this to happen to you, DO YOU?"
     
  5. Riconoen {UGC}

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    Anyone who takes CCC to get high needs to be shot with a .357 magnum. It's goddamned idiots like those guys who ruin it for the rest of us. I think the URL to William Whites DXM FAQ need to be put in big letters on the front of the label of all DXM products.
     
  6. Paracelsus

    Paracelsus Platinum Member & Advisor

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    Most of us know CCCs are extremely harmful, but kids usually dont worry about that.
     
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  7. Riconoen {UGC}

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    I don't think this bill will pass though, DXM is just too efective of a cough suppressant that has been around for years and has a wide therapuetic index.
    And the only other cough suppressants available are opiods and we just can't have codiene over the counter just think of all those kids going to papavar land. ;)
     
  8. bewilderment

    bewilderment Drug Geek Extraordinaire Platinum Member & Advisor

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    Also, I think that perhaps the reason why triple C's continue to be (ab)used is because people, especially kids, simply hear about triple C's from a friend. They may not know what ingredient it is that actually causes the trip. And even if they do know then they most likely will not look it up. I mean, as opposed to those here on the forum, the average drug user does not do a lot (if any) of research on what they are using.
     
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  9. StigmataLectron

    StigmataLectron Silver Member

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    DXM has already been made illegal in Illinois, has it not? Or am I mistaken? Point is, it doesn't matter how useful something is; if someone uses it to get high then they can make it illegal in a heartbeat, no matter how uneducated the move is. :b

    Oh, if I could have one wish, it'd be that Natural Selection works the way it's supposed to in theory, so we can get rid of these uneducated idiots before they spoil it for the rest of us.
     
  10. radiometer

    radiometer bananadine addict Platinum Member & Advisor

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