Easy DMT use?

Discussion in 'DMT and Ayahuasca' started by polloloco001, Jun 2, 2005.

  1. polloloco001

    polloloco001 Gold Member

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    is there any plant containg dmt that i can buy on the internet and just
    eat it without making a tea or extracting it with complex methods, or
    is this just not possible? id like to experiment with these rare
    psychedelics but i dont want to devote a lot of time to running around
    buying naptha and all that.
     
  2. markdahman

    markdahman Silver Member

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    Well i have one suggestion try buuying some yopo seeds.. u just cook em up till they pop like pop corn in a pot then u take the insides and sniff that shit up for a crazy dmt experience.... Ive been wanting ot try this for awhile altho ppl r syaing it gives terrible dripping in the back of ur throat making the trip uncomfortable
     
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    DMT on its own is not orally active – it is
    broken down in your guts by monoamine oxidase, so never really gets into your
    system when taken orally on its own.
    </span>That’s why when taken orally it is typically accompanied by a Monoamine
    Oxidase Inhibitor (MAOI), which blocks the activity of the MAO and allows the
    DMT to enter your system. </span>The most
    common sources of MAOIs for this purpose are Syrian rue (aka Peganum harmala)
    and Banisteriopsis caapi, with the mix of the MAOI and the DMT sources being
    called ayahausca.</span>
     
  4. Dimitri

    Dimitri Gold Member

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    right...

    I would just add virola theiodora resin poweder. Its more about
    5-Meo-DMT but with a bong or another huge smoking device, and if you
    might be able to get a whole gramm of that plant material smoked you
    *might* get a 5-Meo-DMT high, but not sure, not many people tried yet.

    Beside there is just yopo as markdahman said and the oral way with Ayahuasca as transit explained.

    Or try to get 5-Meo-DMT from a research chemical vendor. A few are
    still left these days. But of course: 5-Meo-DMT and N,N-DMT are
    different drugs with different effects!

    You see, there are also simple "adminstration" reasons why this is not
    a common drug. I think this is okay. Would just cause bad experiences
    if this stuff is that easily available as the stuff on the streets.
     
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    transit Newbie

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    I agree.</span>


    Set and setting have a huge impact on drug
    experiences and having to “work” to access and take a particular drug changes
    one’s set (for better or worse). </span>Swim’s
    experience is that the work involved establishes expectations and builds a
    relationship that contributes to a fuller more impactful trip experience.</span>


    As well, the work tends to screen out most
    people thus keeping it relatively unpopular and thus under the radar of
    politicians/priests/police – in other words, it makes it less likely that it
    will become illegal.</span>
     
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    Marsofold Platinum Member

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    im tu lazy tu help yu![​IMG]
     
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    transit Newbie

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    Thanks
    for the laugh, Marsofold.</span></span>


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  8. 69Ron

    69Ron Titanium Member

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    You wouldn’t need a whole gram unless you wanted a really heavy mild blowing trip! About 100-500 mg of Virola theiodora resin is all you would need if smoked. If you wanted to smoke the resin, you should freebase it first because the resin contains 5-MeO-DMT as a water soluble salt. For SWIM smoking 5-MeO-DMT produces an unpleasant experience, it hits you almost instantly, peaks in about 2-3 minutes and only lasts about 10-15 minutes. The effects from smoking it are overwhelming, like being made temporarily insane, it’s no fun, and not much can be gained from the experience. SWIM hates it that way. But when taken sublingually, it’s comparable to LSD in SWIM’s opinion.

    The Virola theiodora resin I tested contains about 2-3% 5-MeO-DMT. 120 mg of resin placed under the tongue is enough to get a light trip from it. 240 mg of resin will give you a very decent trip. That’s a very small amount because the resin is very heavy. When taken sublingually, the effects are more drawn out and much more pleasant than smoking it. It peaks after about 20-25 minutes and lasts about 45 minutes. The effects include mild LSD-like visual distortions, strong LSD-like psychedelic mental effects, lots of insight effects, lots of visual association alterations, euphoria, etc. The visual effects are poor. It’s not a very visual experience. There’s some LSD-like swirling and other minor visual distortion effects, but that’s about it. Even though some of the effects are similar to LSD it doesn’t feel at all like LSD and it’s very unlike DMT. There’s nothing else quite like it. When taken sublingually, it is one of SWIM’s favorite psychedelics.
     
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  9. pistol pete

    pistol pete Silver Member

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    get You a colorado rivertoad
    it's venom is 5-Meo-DMT
    milk it onto glass let it dry
    then smoke
     
    1. 3/5,
      Really dangerous advice without more context - the venom potency is not reliably consistent.
      Nov 4, 2008
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    if taken sublingually does it also need to be mixed with lime?
     
  11. Potter

    Potter Platinum Member & Advisor

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    NO! outriderx, not at all. Please don't do that. Betal, coca, tobacco, those get caustic earth lime, but with DMT, Harmala is the potentiateor. Might not be necessary with sublingual absorbtion, but it can't hurt.

    "Edible" lime with betal and coca, it's kind of weird when properly prepared, not exactly worth it in nobody's opinion when baking soda works, but too much and you're in for a world of awful. Burned every surface in their mouth for a good week and a half. Didn't seem so bad when the quid was in, but after it was spit and water was attempted (bad idea, treat chemical burns with acids, a quick swig of Khombucha quelled further damage), did the extent become obvious. Nobody could eat, it just became unenjoyable, especially given their diet consists mostly of various curries, pepper mixtures, spices, sometimes with a little food. Be careful with that stuff, Nobody doesn't touch it anymore, 'cept in food storage.

    So, yeah, DMT's admixture is Harmala, an MAOI-B. Might not need it, but can't hurt.

    Love.
     
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    well from what i hear sublingually as well as sniffed there is no need for an MAOI (using virola resin whcih contains not DMT but a related one 5-meo-dmt afaik).. and one is apparently able to use it sublingually (without any MAOI but maybe it needs to be basified)
     
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      Interesting information...please update if you find anything related!
      Apr 15, 2009