Combinations - Enhancing MDMA experience with orange juice

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  1. Wangsta

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    I'm just wondering if anybody here can verify that OJ increases the roll. If so, does anybody know why?
     
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    Re: True that OJ raises the experience

    no, thats a confusion with LSD, ascorbic acid is an antioxidant, furthering the lifespans in vivo of drugs subject to oxygen degradation. MDMA doesnt degrade easily.
     
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  3. Alfa

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    Re: True that OJ raises the experience of MDMA?

    Vitamin C is necessary for the synthesis of serotonin: Vitamin C, as the cofactor for tryptophan-5-hydroxylase, catalyzes the hydroxylation of tryptophan to serotonin.

    This may also show an increase of effect by supplementing with vitamine C, but it may be either way.

    Check out this chart on the effect of vitamine C on the serotonin levels of MDMA users:
    mdma_article3_chart2.jpg
     
  4. ThePopeIsMyPal

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    Re: True that OJ raises the experience of MDMA?

    so that would be saying it does increase the roll but the guy before said it doesnt so...which is it?
     
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    Re: True that OJ raises the experience of MDMA?

    Personally, I have never tried adding vitamin C to MDMA, so I can't tell from SWIM's experience. I just present you this information. The studies above where done with 10 mg/kg. You might want to calculate that to your body weight to see how bizarre this is.
     
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    Re: True that OJ raises the experience of MDMA?

    I think the percentage of Vitamin C in your system would have to be a little more than just in a glass of OJ or an orange... but if you were on a steady diet of Vitamin C rich items, then I believe it would lower tolerance to MDMA, therefore you would roll harder eventually.


    As for immediate, I have never tried this before, maybe he will and reply with whether or not it really did anything.
     
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    Re: True that OJ raises the experience of MDMA?

    500 - 1000 mg would be the bare minimum.
     
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    Re: True that OJ raises the experience of MDMA?

    Necessary for serotonin synthesis...the average person today is hardly deficient in vitamin c, so the question would be does consuming excessive amounts increase synthesis (or is a deficit just a limiting factor).

    By all subjective reports from My friends and I, high doses of antioxidants seem to take something from the roll. Also, orange juice decreases absorption of amphetamines. Personally swim stays away from OJ pre-roll because of this fact more than anything.
     
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    Re: True that OJ raises the experience of MDMA?

    well swim can report that use of vit c and acetylocystein in this manner:

    3gr vit c, 1gr NAC pre rolling
    2gr vit c, 0.5gr NAC the next day and for a few days after

    made the comeback somewhat easier, well more subtle anyway. Could be placebo given the study in rats has vit c doses that are in the region of 200gr for a human
     
  10. Broshious

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    Re: True that OJ raises the experience of MDMA?

    IVing Vit C would probably be the best way to go about it.
     
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    Re: True that OJ raises the experience of MDMA?

    This is of about as little relevance as infomation from pill ID sites, but on a recent MDMA experience, SwiM filled up on orange juice for the day leading up to that night. That day involving a long bus ride and so plenty of orange juice. Admittedly, this afforded the Vit C little time to act, but regardless that night was a pretty poor experience. Certainly below average. There are way too many variables to read into it but SwiM will avoid orange juice nonetheless.
     
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    Re: True that OJ raises the experience of MDMA?

    Bananas, have plenty before trust me, i had 3 pills that were average. Next week had half the same one from half of the pill from the week before and the role off half was twice as good as 3. They work!
     
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    Re: True that OJ raises the experience of MDMA?

    I had actually heard that OJ should/could be used if experiencing a bad effect in order to induce vomiting?

    he's never tried it though...
     
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    Re: True that OJ raises the experience of MDMA?

    Vitamin C pills (500mg each=6 oranges) Eat about 6-10 like candy.
     
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    Re: True that OJ raises the experience of MDMA?

    From having seen plenty of people vomit massive quantities of OJ at many raves, I think it's better you stick to Vitamin C pills.