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Everything you need to know about Drug Testing

Discussion in 'Drug testing discussion' started by Jasim, May 10, 2010.

  1. maje80

    maje80 Newbie

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    Re: Drug Testing - A Comprehensive Guide

    So if I am at the 300 mg level on a cocaine drug test, how does the cocaine half life work? How long to get passed the 150 mg cut off level drug test for probation. I was at the 300 level cutoff yesterday but do not know when I will be at 150 level to pass. There are no home drug tests available that test at that level that I can find to use quickly. Any advice greatly appreciate and if you have any questions, I will reply.

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    My last use was 5 days ago.
     
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  2. Diverboone

    Diverboone Titanium Member Donating Member

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    Re: Drug Testing - A Comprehensive Guide

    I know your question concerned oral swabs, but you may be interested with this test being developed that may replace swab test.

    View attachment Detection of drugs of abuse in exhaled Breath.pdf
     
  3. maje80

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    Re: Drug Testing - A Comprehensive Guide

    I will be taking a urine test. Today is day 6 and my line is solid on urine home test at 300 cut off. How long to reach the 150 cutoff?
     
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    dr ACE Titanium Member

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    Re: Drug Testing - A Comprehensive Guide

     
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    Re: Drug Testing - A Comprehensive Guide

     
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    If i'd used cocaine and shaved all the hair on my body every day....when would it be safe to stop shaving for a hair test? many thanks
     
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    Diverboone Titanium Member Donating Member

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    wibble123 Shaving all the hair off ones body is not practical nor really feasible. But in an effort to answer your question, I believe about 7 days after your last use.
     
  8. CaptainTripps

    CaptainTripps Law & Policy sections Platinum Member & Advisor

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    There is more to drug testing than simply getting a negative result. More and more these days those who would test you for drugs are looking for people who may be trying to hide there drug use by defeating the test in some way. Like looking to see if your urine is diluted. My daughter was in a drug diversion program to avoid going to jail and having a record. She was not allowed to pee after midnight. They insisted on the first urine of the day. They said they could tell if you got up at 4am and took a leak. Maybe not the exact time, but they would know. That would be treated the same as a positive. I could never do that, my bladder just would not allow that.

    If the tester can tell that you recently shaved off all your hair, that might be enough for them to consider you as having failed the test. I saw on another of your posts that this has something to do with the military. While it is probably better to "pass" a drug test that they know you cheated on, than to have an actual positive, but it will not be good. This is especially true if the tester has some kind of control over you, like the Department of Corrections or the military. If it was a pre employment screening, they might not even talk with you about it, they might just say they hired someone else. They will just figure that not only are you a drug user, you are dishonest as well.

    So if you were going to shave off your hair, you probably would not be in the clear until it was not obvious that you had shaved off all of your hair. That would be weeks, at least.

    Just something to consider.
     
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    You are very correct CaptainTripps. Many collection guidelines require measures to insure the donation validity. Observing the donor is usually included along with temperature, color, caratine, ph, and specific gravity, when testing urine. I'm unaware what measures that may be employed concerning hair test,

    If the tester can tell that you recently shaved off all your hair, that might be enough for them to consider you as having failed the test. I saw on another of your posts that this has something to do with the military. While it is probably better to "pass" a drug test that they know you cheated on, than to have an actual positive, but it will not be good.

    Under Federal Work Place Drug Testing guidelines any adulterated, diluted, or substituted specimen, will be considered a positive test. Also, If it was a pre employment screening, they might not even talk with you about it, they might just say they hired someone else, the donor would be notified of any positive test before the prospective employer would. The MRO has to make an attempt to speak with donor to rule out any plausible reason for the positive test before confirmation is made.

    This is based upon the Federal Work Place Drug Testing guidelines, which cover many employers, not just Federal Workers. Often employers have their own drug testing policy and guidelines

    https://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=38502&d=1398938905

    https://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=37983&d=1396193683
     
  10. CaptainTripps

    CaptainTripps Law & Policy sections Platinum Member & Advisor

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    That's good info to have D.B. and as usual with references to boot. But just so I am not misunderstood, I was not referring to a situation where the person being tested was considered to be a "positive" based on the grounds they had tried to trick the test. What I am referring to is unethical behavior that some employers (and other entitles as well) engage in. Like if a medical professional employed by the company, made an informal observation about the apparent shaving, after taking the sample. When the test comes back negative, the employer who is now suspicions decides not to hire the person and of course hires someone else. They can simply give a different reason for not employing that person.

    I can give you a similar example. There was a law that said that a misdemeanor could only be used as a reason to deny employment for 7 years. Also employers could only ask about the last 7 years on an application. A person who had been convicted of shop lifting 11 years before (and who's information about the conviction had been removed from state data bases) had applied for a job and the supervisor had decided to employ them. Before offering the position to them, another employee stated that they knew the person who applied and that they had been convicted of shoplifting in the past. The supervisor decided on another "qualified applicant", the person was thanked for applying and was encouraged to apply again should a position open up.

    In my real world employment I have been on many hiring panels. We would ask a series of questions and would score these. The top scores would move up to a second interview. These were always done in pencil, so the scoring could be changed to match the outcome the supervisor wanted. Many people who did not get second interviews, did not get passed on for reasons that if known would have led to law suits. The reasons given were always good ones, but sometimes not the real ones. (for what it is worth, no one was ever denied based on race or sexual preference, or stuff like that).
     
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    AFOM wants to know how long poppy seed tea will stay in his system for a urine screen? Any ideas?
     
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    I have a question that needs a quick answer. I use methiopropamine MPA every week. I usually consume around two grams a week. I have to get my labs drawn for my doctors office soon. How long should I wait until I get my labs drawn after using methiopropamine MPA? Thanks

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    I am also taking some third world country's clonazepam. How long should it wait for my lab draw. I use about 2mg a day. I have 90 pills.
     
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    So Im living in a halfway house and doing IOP for court. We get urinalysis tests at random at least once a week. They say they send the specimens out to a lab to get tested and supposedly they can test our levels of anything we take (for example my Gabapentin, they say they can tell if I take more then Im supposed to.) and Im not aware of any UA tests that can do that. What kind of test do you think they use? Are they just telling us that so we dont abuse are meds?
     
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    I was researching this one day as I was subject to drug testing due to pain management. I checked the billing codes on my insurance. What I found is that tests can either be qualitative where they determine if you have taken something or quantitative where they determine how much of something you take. I would find it somewhat hard to believe that there would be an medical billing code for something that does not exist.

    I have also read posts on this forum regarding pain management where the members have said they have run into problems from taking too much meds. It showed up on their pee test.

    I doubt they would routinely use quantitative testing as usually any positive will be enough to get you in trouble, but if you are medically required to take something, I can see them going the trouble and expense of using such a test.
     
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    Hello, I'm a new member here and this is my first post. I am in Pain Management and found out they want a urine test today. I am prescribed Norco which will be fine but I took a morphine 15mg pill last Thursday... So today should be 4 days. Is there anyway that would show up?
     
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    I want to share some information on a great service I used this past week.

    This Monday I had to take one of my three-time yearly drug (urine) tests for my pain specialist. I kind of knew I was about due for a test, and also knew that I wasn't going to come up clean of weed if I was tested. So I took a chance on the online site that claims to sell clean human urine--not synthetic--and bought some.

    Before the purchase I did my best to check all obvious online sources for insight into the company's credibility and its reviews, and happily found them seemingly credible, though still a wee bit doubtful and figuring how to show Righteous Indignation if I had been called cheater or worse.

    But instead I PASSED with flying colors~ :smoking:

    The urine is not expensive, comes with a small hand-type heater, a temperature sticker and 2.5 oz. of clean human (male or female) urine.

    I realize that this is not a solution for everyone, but me personally I will keep this on hand for the next time I'm tested, if I'm still smoking regularly, and would advise anyone else who has seen the ads and wonders that it really does work
     
  17. ash28

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    Is this true?
    A positive test result does not indicate the concentration of drug in the specimen or the route of
    administration.

    A negative result may not necessarily indicate a drug-free specimen. Drug may be present in the
    specimen below the cutoff level of the assay

    I read this in the label used in our drug testing, ora-check.
     
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    Why do you ask this question, given the source? Something had to peak your interest. To answer your question, Yes it's true.