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Opinions - Fake threads about meth

Discussion in 'Methamphetamine' started by Stepin Fetchit, Mar 24, 2012.

  1. Stepin Fetchit

    Stepin Fetchit Banned

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    I noticed a thread where a question was asked about meth,many it struck me odd because the person was claiming to be a user, yet their language was funny, like someone who was reading directly off a meth info web site that describes the effects and dangers. Later I noticed many many threads that were much more obviously fake, and it sort of sounded like someone was making them to try to sell supplements to people that are detoxing.

    Anyway, assuming you agree that there are obviously people posing as meth users, have you noticed it, and other than them just wanting to be a douvhe, why would they be doing this? Is it for reasearch for something? Do they halve an agenda.
     
  2. sassyspy

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    Lovey, you'll have to be more specific. But to answer you, no, I haven't noticed anything like that, and I have been following the meth forums for at least a year.

    I apologize if it offends you, but it does kinda sound like you may be speaking from a meth induced paranoia. Have you considered that?

    There really is no reason for someone to fake it as you describe, and I would be very surprised if such were occurring and had not already been sussed out by Alfa and his staff.

    Try and have another look at the posts you are referring to, and take everything into consideration, such as member status and time on DF; post content in other subject forums, and their reputation.

    Thanks!:)
     
  3. Megan288

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    youre prob onto something. This is how I think too.
     
  4. Ontario

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    Never noticed any I have been looking around for a few months, not to say I couldnt have missed something.

    I think Alfa and his team of mods would be on it though.
     
  5. Stepin Fetchit

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    No, that's fine, I understand. I have considered that I could be paranoid. You would admit that there are obviously trolls that are bullshitting, right?

    The examples I am referring to aren't as obvious, but have people talking about how depressed and suicidal they are that's once they quit, referring to how the suicidal thoughts are overwhelming, and they miss the euphoria of the high, and that they can feel how their dopamine and serotonin receptors have been damaged, etc. I've never heard a detoxing user talking about their brain receptors or missing "euphoria," plus, every post had the buzz words scattered throuout, and there's no way every poster had the same writing style.

    There's other evidence, but if you've seen something fishy I'd like to know.

    Stepin Fetchit added 1 Minutes and 41 Seconds later...

    To my knowledge, the person has to be acting offensively or break the rules to have stuff removed. There's one fake one up right now that everyone caught, about living above a meth lab.
     
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  6. Alfa

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    That one was just too comical to delete. That cracked me up.
    But the rules prohibit trolling and posting fake threads is trolling. Such posts can be reported so that the staff can deal with it.
    We also have a reputation system that the community can use when a user is obviously trolling.
     
  7. MisMonroe

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    Can't say that I've noticed, but then again, when tweaked, everyone but you is being fucking wierd! ;)
     
  8. bravez

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    Personally, I take solace in the thought that there's a teeny-tiny chance that someone, somewhere might have enough time to write decoy posts. Mostly because it makes me feel better about the things I do pass time.
     
  9. Stepin Fetchit

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    Good point. I think, but I might not know what a good point is right now.
     
  10. no eff eks

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    When you start thinking internet forums are populated by shill posters and dummy accounts you know it's time to stop doing whatever drug you're on and get 8+ hours of sleep. That's been my experience anyway...

    edit 14/5/12:
    reality is often quite unkind... i do not think this was said in an insulting tone, but if that is how it is interpreted then i apologize. i was/am speaking from my own experience of having that exact delusion as a result of abusing stimulants. instead of getting more sleep, i did more drugs... eventually i was unable to use the internet at all because none of it looked genuine to me. it was quite scary, i honestly hoped my post would encourage him to get some sleep and help himself out if he happened to be in a similar mental spiral. i'm not judging anyone in a self-righteous way... those in glass houses...
     
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    To the OP, yes, I have noticed some profiles not really completed posting some odd threads. It's not just in the meth forums though it's throughout. Most of these are by new members that refuse to either read the rules or have read them and don't care about them. They are sniffed out and dealt with by members and then mods.

    While it is true that doing long and large amounts of meth can cause a person to get over paranoid, this is not the case here. You see things that are real, but I think you are just on the wrong assumption of why they are popping up. I think it says a LOT that you considered maybe you are just over paranoid, people experiencing meth psychosis usually don't want to accept they are freaking out there.

    So, how about this, when doing meth and or without sleep, just give the benefit of the doubt, but even while on it, and while off it, just please give benefit of the doubt. I think you are a valuable member here and can spot the not so right. Please bring things you notice up to the mods by reporting a thread AFTER giving it a decent amount of thought, kind of like you did here. I doubt you saw what you described in this thread and then 10 seconds later did this thread. Chances are this is something you have noticed and been thinking about for a nice while. We don't want to waste mods time, but at the same time you saw something that was true.

    Good thread, you not only spoke about what you noticed, but this calls the trolls out, and puts them on notice :)
     
  12. cloud_nine

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    I too have noticed some rather odd postings from questionable members about meth but i just figured they must not be very well educated about it or new to it.
    I mean,i cant really think of what someone would benefit from posting fake threads about meth..unless they just wanted to fuck with tweakers,knowing they are paranoid.haha
     
  13. Aveo

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    I think all forums have "trolls" Its just the nature of the internet. I'm not saying that we have them here, as I'm new myself and I wouldn't know....but I just take what people say online with a grain of salt.
     
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    i have notoiced two in the past few days actually that i thought the questions they were askin vs the knowledge they had didnt add up. and like you said.. like it came off of a website. i really don.t understand what tge point of doing it is but it's weird. and i dont think we are ALL going through psychosis. stuff just sounds fishy from some of these "new users" that are posting...
     
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    I looked quickly through the meth/amphetamine forum lobbies and nothing stood out to me. Could you guys point to specific threads? If the OP of the thread is just a troll/shill then I don't think that's out of line calling them out... I'm actually quite curious now given how rare spammy threads/posts are at this forum.

    Apologies to Stepin for being so dismissive initially, although to be fair their posts came across as written by somebody that'd been tweaking for 48hrs+... Even if he was right, I think sleep was a good idea. (now if only i took my own advice... :\)
     
  16. Stepin Fetchit

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    Some of the ones are in the addiction part, where posts are claiming that they recently quit, listing a laundry list of side effects, talking about being suicidal, but every one sounds the same.

    Actually it's nothing to really worry about. I think one person I half-accused of being a phony was me being paranoid and acting like a dickhead about something, lol...
     
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    dude.....you're paranoid
     
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    I myself post on meth forums all the time even though im not a user. I'm just curious and use ritalin which is similar.

    I imagine some users pose as meth users because they feel meth users would only listen to other meth users. Of course, I think this thinking is flawed. I myself havent noticed any odd posts that seem fake though.
     
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    I just wanted to point out that the drug users on DF are generally more intelligent than drug users out on the street. When I talk about drugs I talk about serotonin and dopamine and I don't think it's uncommon to see posts where other people do. I actually think the fact that they did use these words means that they are more likely to be telling the truth because they obviously have some basic background knowledge. I've never seen a anti drug propaganda website that mentioned anything about specific chemicals in the brain because generally I think they are trying to reach an audience of 12-18 year olds and kids that age generally aren't real knowledgeable when it comes to the inner workings of the brain. I could imagine it saying something like "drugs mess with your brain" but not something like "drug users will experience a decrease in serotonin/dopamine production and their receptors."

    Also keep in mind that their language may seem funny because language differs widely from place to place, even within the same country and this is an international forum. Obviously not everyone is going to have the same slang, and if someone has to use a translator or isn't well versed in English then it is going to sound strange, but that isn't indicative of a lie.

    What motive would someone have to lie, especially about trying to get clean? I would understand your concern if the post was like "Hey bros, where should I hide my drug if I get pulled over, words yo" because that might be something a cop would like to know. But who would gain anything by lying about getting clean?
     
  20. Megan288

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    Good points runnerup beauty queen. I can't speak for the guy that wrote this, but part of that seems like paranoia to me.

    Now, don't write me off as a conspiracy theorist, but, I actually think there are billion dollar industry or govt forces that have an agenda and might effect us in ways that are beyond our comprehension at the time. Watch Frontline episodes at PBS.org and you might be more likely to agree with me. I don't know.. it doesn't really matter if you follow the rules and want to go along with the rest of society anyway.

    one thing I know for sure, manipulating people isn't good, neither are illegal drugs. I'm not even sure therapeutic drugs are the best thing.
     
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