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Experiences - First experience with Maeng Da Kratom

Discussion in 'Kratom' started by seaturtle, Oct 21, 2012.

  1. seaturtle

    seaturtle Titanium Member

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    I've been using 10-11 g of Bali Kratom almost everyday for awhile now, and haven't tried any new strains in a long time. My vendor recently started selling Maeng Da and I ordered a bit since it's one of the more popular strains based on what I've read.

    No drugs were used prior to the Kratom besides some Cannabis about 7 hours before.

    I ingested 10.6 g of Maeng Da crushed leaf powder in about 15 minutes on an empty stomach ending at 6:02 pm, started watching a movie while waiting for the effects to come on. The taste and texture was more bearable than Bali during the toss n wash, making Maeng Da the easiest strain to toss n wash that I've tried.

    6:15 pm, t+13: Smoking a few hits of Cannabis, which is what I usually do when I take Kratom to avoid nausea. Definitely noticing the stimulating effects at this point.

    6:32 pm, t+30: Definitely feeling the first waves of euphoria, very nice buzz. Stimulation is noticeable but mild like with Bali.

    6:50 pm, t+48: Already feeling a strong buzz and sedation. Eating dinner.

    7:07 pm, t+65: Have begun to nod off, feels very clean and euphoric, this is potent Kratom. Still got about an hour of coming up so hard to tell the differences between Bali and Maeng Da at this point.

    7:16 pm, t+74: Got so close to passing out I had to walk around to stay awake. This is strongly sedating, perhaps took a bit too much if I'm almost passing out well before the peak. It's been a long day though so that's probably part of the reason.

    7:29 pm, t+87: In bed lying down, this is like the first time I took Kratom. Probably passing out.

    2:31 am, T+8.5 hours: Woke up from the Maeng Da induced coma, feel very well rested and still have a decent Kratom buzz going. That was the first time since I was a newbie to Kratom that I passed out before the peak which usually occurs from 2-3 hours after dosing. I had no choice to lie down since I was so heavily sedated and also somewhat dizzy, but once I was in bed the experience was great, as strong as any opiate experience I've ever had. Maeng Da is definitely stronger than Bali by weight though I think the effects are roughly similar. I think Maeng Da might be less stimulating and more sedating than Bali but it'll take a few more experiments with lower and more reasonable doses to assess that. Next time I take it I'm only going to take about 7 grams.
     
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  2. Tripdisaster

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    Waiting for the rest of the report.
    I would like to know how much more potent Maeng Da is compared to Bali. When my tolerance is low I take 5g and I get a strong effect from it. I bet you probably got very strong effect from almost 11g of Maeng Da unless your tolerance is quite high. Personally if I dont feel much from 5g I reduce the dose for a few days until my tolerance lower.

    So if your are able to approximatly compare × grams of Maeng Da to how many grams of Bali. I would really like to know.

    Thank you

    2h later: I guess you blacked out in your bed ;) I hope you had a good time.
     
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  3. seaturtle

    seaturtle Titanium Member

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    Yup the effects were very strong even though I am a daily Kratom user, I probably won't be taking this much Maeng Da again. I would say Maeng Da is at least 1.5 X stronger than Bali based on this first experience, but it'll take a few more experiments to really nail down the ratio, especially considering I blacked out in my bed before peak effects this time :laugh:
     
  4. LittleBigDave

    LittleBigDave Newbie

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    What do you get out of taking it daily? I bought some, I have had it 3 days in a row now and frankly I am already pretty much bored of it. I don't see what it has to offer that would give it every day appeal. What does it do for you, every day, that your day would lack without it, or that something else couldn't provide?
     
  5. Tripdisaster

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    ^ Daily use of Kratom can provide pain relief and antidepressant effect even if it doesnt get you high anymore.
     
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  6. LittleBigDave

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    So that would be the OP's answer, "daily use is to provide pain relief and as an antidepressant". But I don't think he or she mentions either of those things. I may have missed it. It must be something like. Surely it can't be for recreation.
     
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  7. Tripdisaster

    Tripdisaster Newbie

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    This is my answer not the OP one, sorry if you only wanted his answer.
     
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  8. LittleBigDave

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    I was just curious as to why he did it everyday. Just particularly his answer cause its his thread.
     
  9. seaturtle

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    Kratom has never gotten boring for me. I use it to unwind at the end of the day, it puts me in a state of peace and enjoyment that other drugs just don't give me. I love how it gives me energy for a couple hours so I can get some important tasks done, and then it floats me off to dreamland (at least with Bali, Maeng Da seems to have little stimulation). The other aspect is that I'm addicted, like other substances which act on the opioid receptors Kratom is habit forming. If I didn't take it for a day the next day would be extremely stressful, so you could say I take it as an anti-depressant as well. If it didn't get me high I would quit since being addicted isn't a good state of mind to be in for nothing, but it still works and I still love it. I'm also prone to picking up my old habits of drinking too much, bingeing on adderall, and experimenting too much with drugs in general when I don't take Kratom... I'd rather just eat a little bit of Kratom and be satisfied rather than run the risk of going out and ending up hungover or strung out. My life has improved drastically since I started using Kratom, I basically don't drink or binge on anything, and the lack of getting wasted has led to me exercising everyday and keeping an intense focus on the research for my job.
     
  10. LittleBigDave

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    Wicked. I can't fault that. If it does all that for you then you are lucky to have it. Well played.
     
  11. UpstairsRichie

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    I bought 28 grams of Maeng Da Kratom. Received it on Friday, October 19th.
    I was looking for something to help me stop drinking alcoholic beverages.
    A little background: I’m 65. This is my 5th round of sobriety.

    I was totally sober for 8 years. Each round of sobriety lasted about 7-8 years. My grandfather, great grandfather, and father were alcoholic
    (German beer brewers). I started losing my eyesight due to Macular Degeneration in 1998, and struggled with the companying depression. The disease runs in my family (genetics), so I saw my aunts, grandmother and mother lose their vision…So I was pretty well prepared, or so I thought. The short story, Ibecame suicidal, and threw in the towel and started drinking. Had a couple of episodes, in which I ended up hospitalized. Last May I was taken to a hospital, when I passed out in a taxi, was unresponsive, my heart stopped and started. I was kept over night, and told I should really stop drinking, as one of these times I would not wake up.

    My alcohol consumption was a 6 pack or 2 a day, a bottle of wine, every couple of days, and a bottle of Blue Sapphire once a week.
    I was down to 3-4 beers a day, decided to get on the sobriety bus again. Researched Kratom, found this site.

    I had never used Kratom at all…so I started with a small cup of tea (4-5 oz.) w/ 1/2 teaspoon of powder in it. I was pleasantly surpassed by one of the side effects of the tea. It alleviated arthritic pain in my neck, lower, back and knees, within 30 minutes of drinking it.

    I’ve taken it the past 4 days, increasing the dose. I’m now using 2 teaspoons of powder in 12 oz. of water. I have not even thought of drinking alcohol, since Friday. A friend of mine had told me a horror story about Kratom use. One of his friends, is heavily addicted to it. His wife is leaving him.
    He started drinking after 40 years. Personally, I don’t think it has anything to do with the Kratom.

    I’m not looking to get high, just sober, and this seems to be working. I have a very addictive nature, and am watching my intake of the stuff.

    Hope this helps some fellow alcoholics/alcohol users.

    I’ll keep posting progress if there is interest.

    Regards,
    Upstairs Richie
     
  12. Legalhighbyby

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    Same here, yesterday I Tried maeng da kratom for the first time. 8 30 I took 1 tablespoon of kratom and mixed with cranberry juice. 9 00 I really started to feel strong euphoria and very speedy. I would honestly compare my experience with MDMA just not nearly as strong. I could feel a rush coming on all through my body. 10 00pm still a lot of euphoria and a little sedating at the same time. For some reason I craved ciggerates like crazy on it. The effects lasted till 1 00 pm but probably longer due to having to go to work the next day. The next morning though I had a sip of caffeine and I was very happy and jittery and that's not normal cause I'm a big coffee drinker, but I really like it alot and I worked like a champ to.
     
  13. Toad4987

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    seaturtle... do you take breaks or do you take kratom daily. What times do you take it, strictly at night? no morning withdrawals. I too feel that kratom has helped my life a ton though I am looking for more of a dose and schedule. I find myself trying to take as little as possible to ease anxiety and then i look back and took a ton of capsules during the day. I would like to wake up take a certain dose and get to work. The most i have ever taken at once is 12 capsules about 6 months ago and that made me feel wasted.. i realize i think its only 6 g's tho...
     
  14. Trying2Bfree

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    I am new to Kratom as well and have been experimenting with different strands. So far my favorite is the red Borneo. Today I went to get more and they didn't have any so the guy told me to get the OPMS brand of the Maeng da. It's almost 5pm my time, after reading all of this I'm concerned if I take it this late I'll be too energized. I normally take between 8-12 .5 capsules. My question is how much should I take for good pain relief without getting all the energy? And/Or should I just wait till mornings no? Also, if I do wait till morning, how much should I take? I have 16 capsules total.
    Any help at all is much obliged.
     
  15. Potter

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    We don't hold people's hands and tell them how much of a drug to take and when. We are not an on demand answer service. since you are asking about taking drugs RIGHT NOW, we can't help you.

    What you can do is spend the next few hours reading over the many threads of information here, learn about this substance and make an informed decision on how to use it in the future.

    Best of luck to you.
     
  16. Dreambird

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    From my experience, kratom doesn't really aid sleeping. Even the calming red strains bring me into a relaxed state, but kind of keep me from sleeping. Of course, pain makes it hard to fall asleep as well. If the pain allows it, I'd try to wait with the kratom until morning and maybe take some valerian instead.

    The dosage is really up to you. It might be a good idea for you to experiment a little during the day and find the minimum dosage that gives you pain relieve. Then you'll see how pronounced the other effects are at that dosage and if that would allow you to sleep.
     
  17. EdNope13

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    I've been taking Maeng Da and Red Vein Bali for about 2 months now and I document every dose to keep track of the results.

    Red Vein Bali helped to calm me and even helps me sleep a little - I am a chronic insomniac, so this little sleep makes a difference. Even without sleep, Red Vein Bali is very calming. I take 12-16 "00" capsules in one evening dose.

    Maeng Da is definitely a morning/early afternoon drug. I usually take between 12 and 20 "00" capsules of kratom (16 is a good dose). I fill my own capsules and I quadruple tamp then so that the kratom is maxed out in each capsule. If I can find my scale I'll weigh each capsule, but I'd guess I'm getting about .7 grams in each capsule.

    I also decarb'd some weed and I put that weed in capsules, too.

    Best dosing experience I've had - take 16 Maeng Da "00" capsules and wait two hours, then take three canna capsules of decarb'd weed. Excellent euphoria, energy to do things and a clear head!