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Dose - First time fentanyl user!

Discussion in 'Fentanyl' started by IAMREGIME, Aug 10, 2013.

  1. IAMREGIME

    IAMREGIME Silver Member

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    What's up DF, my friend recently came across two 25mcg fentanyl patches and he has a few questions. He asks,

    "How do I identify if my fentanyl patches are smokable?

    Is smoking fentanyl the best choice?

    Is 25mcg enough? I have no tolerance as I almost never use opiates, will this be enough or too much??

    If I cannot smoke the fentanyl patches are they worth even using? I am seeking euphoric effects from the opiate, not pain management. They are obviously extended release, is this an issue?

    I am pretty experienced with opiates but fentanyl is one of the few I haven't tried. Needless to say I'm a bit excited ;) I'd love to try these before work at five, but if not after work may even be nicer. Thanks for the help guys!! This could also serve as an information thread for any other inexperienced users."

    Also, what should my friend expect, is fentanyl identical to any other opiate? My friend asks

    "Does it have that 'clean' high that oxycodone gives you or is it more reminiscent of that 'dirty, warm' high that dope gives you? Thanks again guys I appreciate it much! I'm all down for partying but you gotta be safe and responsible while you get fucked up!"
     
  2. Hamachi

    Hamachi Newbie

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    Be careful with that stuff. If you put one on you skin and take it off an hour later the gel on your skin continues to soak in for 12 hours. I took it for pain and it made me very sleepy with no high but long acting meds don't give a high. I was out of Percocet and withdrawing so I slapped on a patch to stop the withdrawl. I finally got my Percs filled and took a couple and pulled off the patch. Next thing I know it's 6 hours later and I am covered with sweat in bed. I think I came close to ODing. I am pretty tolerant too.
     
  3. IAMREGIME

    IAMREGIME Silver Member

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    My friend will surely proceed with caution, being a taller guy of about 250 lbs, he asks

    "Should I smoke the whole 25mcg at once, is this a decent dose? Surely there is no way that 25mcg can cause an overdose. Could you answer this for me? I am down for getting fucked up but i certainly take caution with any drug that's is active in the MICROGRAM range."

    My friend adds,

    "After a bit of research I found the information I was looking for. All I can say is WOW this shit is awesome. I can barely keep my eyes open right now, gonna hit the nod for a bit then go to work!

    Also, I should have done some research BEFORE I made this thread ;) Hope I didn't piss any mods off or something, next time I'll remember to use the search bar first, thanks again everyone"
     
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  4. Hamachi

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    Keep in mind 25 mcg is a 72 hour dose. I have no idea what affect smoking it has or how much and how fast the drug is released.
     
  5. IAMREGIME

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    My friend is a bigger guy, over six feet and about 250, he said

    "I smoked the whole 25mcg, slowly of course, and WOW!!!! Then I smoked the other 25mcg and goddam. Is there a way to use fentanyl recreationally where it will hit you the same way but for longer? Should I just slap two 25mcg patches on my thigh next time? That high was fucking beautiful. Definitely got some well-needed meditation/silent time. I mean WOW! I went to work with the effects still lingering, work went beautifully! I have a supply of these right now, but I do not use opiates often. Maybe next month or something I will try smoking a patch quicker and see what happens. I will certainly proceed with caution. Thanks guys!"
     
  6. jewitch

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    25mcg/h is an hourly dose, the patches have 72 x that amount plus more! i am currently on 2x 100 mcg/h patches, they have 16.5MG in the entire patch! ( i am not sure what the 25mcg patches have as its been a year or more since i have wore 6 of them at once....) just be careful, glad to see you have done your research. living in canada, friends of mine received narcon at the local hospital for babysitting his friend while experimenting with these patches. they produce a quick high , short lasting, extremely addictive, no legs and fast detox. when wore on skin, they store in the body fat for up to 72 hrs. based on your BMI, less body fat, less storage.good luck
     
  7. IAMREGIME

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    Correct, my friend says,

    "The patches in whole contain 2.5mg, I have heard this is enough to overdose? Is this true? In whatever case, I smoked the whole patch, very slowly of course, and I was completely fine. Is this maybe because I am taller and bigger than most people, over six feet and about 250lbs. I am certainly not scared of this because I am fine, but the numbers do intrigue me because according to some searches I've done I took an overdose amount."
     
  8. cjb85

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    You better be careful with that stuff. I know of two people who died pretty recently using it. I realize you're going to do it regardless of what I say but try not to get brave with it, it will surely catch up to you sooner or later if you start chasing the dragon with it. Beware of putting any on your body if you're going to smoke it, if you merely nod out from the smoking you're going to get a continuous dose which can lead to an OD easily. If you do choose to put them on your body, let someone know exactly where they are on you...if someone finds you unconscious and they don't know what's up they're very hard to spot.
     
  9. IAMREGIME

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    Relax, my friend is quite cautious...

    He asks,

    "But can you answer whether or not 2.5mg is an overdose? I am a bigger guy and smoked it very slowly, so maybe that's why I was fine. I made sure to take a good 20 mins or so between each hit because I read online that 2.5mg can be an overdose. I barely ever use opiates, so I am very careful when I do use them, as I am quite aware of the danger that comes along with using drugs like these, especially something like fentanyl which is active in the microgram range.

    If there was something that made me feel like opiates do, but without the danger, physical dependence, etc. etc. that opiates have, I would do that drug every day, but no drug like that exists. and I don't even enjoy using cannabis every day anymore.

    This drug is certainly not something I will be using often, at least not any time again soon. Opiates are an occasional thing for me. However I like to be as informed as I can about anything I use, hence the reason for this thread."
     
  10. scartissue_68

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    So far, I haven't seen any reference to whether you have a Gel-Type patch or a matrix. Also, no info on your smoking process. We'll assume you have gel-type patch (although word around the campfire has it that the gel-type is becoming very rare) and your using foil to vaporize the drug and then inhale the fumes through a tube of some sort.

    If, however, you are smoking small chunks of a matrix....then stop. The matrix is made of a layered plastic membrane and smoking this plastic could be worse for you (in a cumulative effect) than the Fent (event for event).

    Of course, nothing is worse than death from an OD and I strongly encourage you to continue to wait out the longish intervals between hits. As said above ^^^^^ "don't get brave". Because you liked the effect and give yourself weeks between sessions, then you know you're playing in relatively safe territory and have no smart reason to accelerate your chances with this drug.

    Fentanyl will skyrocket your tolerance in a short period of time. I've read many posts here on DF that report Fent withdrawals are worse than Heroin. Another reason to space out your experiential sessions.

    My main point, though. "Don't smoke plastic".
     
  11. IAMREGIME

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    My friend said,

    "Correct! I was in fact smoking the gel type patches! However I have heard of people using non-gel type patches in other ways. Like said before I do not plan on using these again any time soon, I simply have no reason to. But it was certainly worth the experience and I appreciate everyones input!"
     
  12. jewitch

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    on your question as to 25 mcg/h patch being an o.d amount...i am not sure. personally, i think they are weak, i am on the ratiopharm brand, ( sticker type ) 2x 100mcg's/ per hr, 16.5mg total worn in tandem, changed 36 hrs apart on a 3 day spread to keep a steady dose in bloodstream. this dose is enough to kill more than half the population.
    i did not start at this dose. i had a shunt, ( an iv line straight into my heart, from the upper arm ) dripping liquid morphine 24/h a day 7 days a week for over a year...plus 'a whole galaxy of multi coloured uppers, downers, screamers and laughers', as my partner would say quoting fear and loathing...
    if you rarely use, your tolerance would be low, so the amount used at one time should be small. having zero tolerance or daily use of opiates and using the entire patch at once will probably kill you.
    personally speaking, the high is awful, has 'no legs' , or so i am told, leaves a bad taste in your mouth when used as prescribed, no nice warm fuzzy feelings like morphine drip and could kill you.
    be safe.
     
  13. Hamachi

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    I had spinal steroid injections yesterday and they gave me 100 mcg IV of Fentanyl and a benzo. That was awake sedation. It sucked. I could feel the pain. My other pain doctors used to knock me out for them. So I guess 100 mcg IV is not too much for a 250lb male.
     
  14. jewitch

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    but you also had an anaesthesiologist present to administer other meds in the event this dose was too much....at home there is no specialist or anaesthesiologist present to revive you...something to keep in mind...and 100mcg/iv is far less than the total drug amount of a 25mcg/ an hour patch...i know the 100mcg/h patches have 16.5 mg's, only gives out 72 doses of 100mcg over 3 days, meaning these patches have more than twice the required amount! just something to consider....