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Experiences - Flephedrone (4-Fluoromethcathinone, 4-FMC) Experiences

Discussion in 'Beta-Ketones' started by honourableone, Aug 3, 2009.

  1. honourableone

    honourableone R.I.P. Gold Member

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    Please add your experiences with Flephedrone. Please add dosage, route and duration to the top of your post like this:

    When posting a experience, please describe:

    • body weight & gender
    • dose taken
    • route of administration
    • Setting: in what environment it was taken.
    • duration of main effects
    • main effects
    • side effects
    • after effects
    • rating of the experience
    • addictive qualities / abuse potential
    • any other valuable information
    Info about this drug (other than experiences) should be discussed here: Flephedrone Drug Info
     
  2. Dr. Satan

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    Re: Flephedrone (4-Fluoromethcathinone, 4-FMC)

    It seems to be very similar to mephedrone, but much easier on the body and mind. At the moment Flephedrone remains rather expensive.
     
  3. Dr. Satan

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    Re: Flephedrone (4-Fluoromethcathinone, 4-FMC)

    Orally dosage 100 to 200mg.
     
  4. runitsthepolice

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    Re: Flephedrone (4-Fluoromethcathinone, 4-FMC)

    Dr. Satan does your human have first hand experience with this chemical? Would love to hear a report including some comparisons with mephedrone. I'm sure a detailed report would earn you some good rep.
     
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  5. Dr. Satan

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    Re: Flephedrone (4-Fluoromethcathinone, 4-FMC)

    Dosage: 200mg + 200mg
    Route: Orally
    Duration: 3 to 4 hours
    Weight: 65kg - 143 pounds

    Satan began by taking it at home with some friends 200mg in parachute, the first signs appears after 30 min to 45 min, a light wave invades Satan, some kind of pleasant sensation of wavering.
    1 hour after, Satan is more speedy than with the Mephedrone, but little less euphoric. Then later, it becomes more tactile, more sensory, so then Satan's friends decided to go out.
    After 2 to 3 hours, it's the comedown, some tensings of jaws, mouth dries, some light palpitations, much less than with the Mephedrone.

    So Satan decided to take another 200mg in parachute, only 30 minutes after, the real rush, much more interesting than the first one. More sensations to float, more heat waves in the body, the envy to appreciate the music, the pleasant sensations to be carried by the sound. Satan cannot refrain from comparing this sensation with the mdma.
    But, the Mephedrone stays more euphoric.

    The come down was less hard, some heart palpitations, but not as much as under the Mephedrone. A little bit nervous, but nothing disturbing, a little of music and still need to speak a little. Satan feel that it is not possible to sleep quickly, he decides to set some Diazepam to calm his self a little. Some problems with erection, some light difficulties pissing normally, but nothing alarming.

    The a little shaken wake up but without major difficulties. Finally, Flephedrone remains an interesting substance, more to go out with some pals without wanting to take over and over all the time just like as with the Mephedrone. The effects are lighter on the body, and psychologically it is easier to care.
    Satan think that those who appreciate the mephedrone are going to be a little disappointed by the lighter effects of Flephedrone. There is too many points of comparison. Furthermore, i4-FMC remains more expensive than the Mephedrone, at the moment.

    In conclusion, Satan prefer the Mephedrone for its more interesting potential, even if the comedown is a little more hard.
     
  6. chillinwill

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    Re: Flephedrone (4-Fluoromethcathinone, 4-FMC)

    Here are some experiences that are not SWIM's but of others that he found when looking at other sites and talking to other people:

     
  7. Benga

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    Re: Flephedrone (4-Fluoromethcathinone, 4-FMC)

    also read a few reports mentioning a pretty overwhelming mind-fog, hard to think cleary, impairement.
    critter also got this with mephedrone, reaching a point in discussions where he would actually just drop out of the conversation as he couldn't focus / concentrate or elaborate ideas clearly and much more comfortable with jokes and sillyness.
    which is fine, but when experimenting with the compound always gave a feeling of dropping down a few notches into more appetite driven response to the environment.

    are similar kind of effects on cognitive functions confirmed for 4-FMC ?
     
  8. sundayraver

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    Re: Flephedrone (4-Fluoromethcathinone, 4-FMC)

    100mg nasally - mildly euphoric, bad headache jittery, lasted around 30 minutes, swim thought wth and redosed anonthe 100mg nasally, not much euphoria, bad beggining to outweigh the good, this stuff felt very morish yet high was mediocre at best. SWIM took 100mg more and felt the bad headache again. SWIMS 2 friends were not impressed with 4-fmc either. Mephedrone is a lot better, as is methylone
     
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    Re: Flephedrone (4-Fluoromethcathinone, 4-FMC)

    Donkey found Flephedrone even more addictive and mood swings worse than Mephedrone on come down.

    Easier to take while working also he told me so dangerous in that you can go about much of your business on it (leads to"im productive on it so its ok" arguments in some cases).
     
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    Re: Flephedrone (4-Fluoromethcathinone, 4-FMC)

    My horse eventually tried this cathinone derivative. He typed this after waking up post experience so his mood was none too good. His feeling was 'neigh' to taking it again in a hurry. From what he says I doubt this one will be a mega-seller. It might be worth mixing with other substances however....

     
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    Re: Flephedrone (4-Fluoromethcathinone, 4-FMC)

    Many times tried 4-FMC. Gives good sensations, but is weaker mephedrone. 4 days accepted and what by-effects)) on end
     
  13. darkbreed

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    Re: 3-fluoromethcathinone (3-FMC) Experiences

    SWIM just received a batch of flephedrone from his trusted vendor. He also received some phenazepam. He took a couple mg phenazepam 3 hours earlier, and then he took approximately 100mg orally along with around 50mg 4-fa. this was around 30 min ago, he is feeling a slight sensation sort of coming up but will report back later.

    He is not sure if the phenazepam ingested earlier will affect the experience any or decrease the effects of the flephedrone.

    Mahatavar added six days later...

    Last experiment mentioned above was probably a bit too low in dosage, and did not give any much effects worth writing home about thus no more info were provided.
     
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    Flephedrone seem to be quite nice, SWIM reports back that specially in combination with Methylone it is actually really great when taking 150mg of each together. On its own its also fairly good, at least mountains better than 4-MEC if compared to Mephedrone.
     
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    It is better mixed with a more entheogenic cathinone like metheylone or mepehdrone.
     
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    SWIM found that a dosage even as low as 80mg of each (methylone & flephedrone) gives a very good and euphoric effect. Even a bit too much in fact, gets very speedy and hard to sit still, and he have to get up and do something or go out for a walk, listen to music and dance and sing along, etc. Today he dosed 160mg in total, 80mg of each of the two, and got very high and stimulated with great euphoria. He took a booster of the same size 2 hours after first dose.
     
  17. Drats

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    Plugged and high oral dosages so far only. So SWIM takes the time to write about his insufflation experience with flephedrone.

    SWIM - Highly experienced with most drug classes, except dissociative and barbiturates.
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    Repeated insufflation, various amounts (20-80 mg per line)

    First SWIm just found wild and various information on the net and was quite unsure what´s the real dose. Interestingly he tried all cathinones, amphetamines and phenethylamines he might get, buy or produce, except mephedrone. For SWIM mephedrone was a "boring" mainstream drug like Coke. And for SWIM "hyped" drugs often loose their quality, as more and more scammers and money makers pick up on it.

    Anyway it isn´t necessary to have taken Mephedrone to describe Flephedrone.

    T0:00 SWIM first took around 20 mg and snorted it. There was a comparable strong burning, but after 2C-D, Methamphetamine and Brephedrone, the pain only makes a 6 of 10 on the scale.
    T0:03 The burning in the nose is gone.
    T0:10 Feeling slightly uplifted, mood slightly increased, maybe slightly stimulated. But that also could be caused by the fact that many of good friends where around and it was a funny round anyways.
    T0:15 No increase, but even if all effects are placebo, one was not, SWIM felt warm and sweaty. But not very bad at that moment.
    T0:20 Time to redose, SWIM snorted a line of 60 mg Flephedrone, burning wasn´t much stronger than with 20 mg, only the chemical drip which goes down the throat is somewhat bigger and more disgusting.
    T:30 No it definitely goes on, feeling warm and hot, but opening another window did the trick. Stimulation came up, but it wasn´t hard to sit still. It was more important to have a talk, it would have been unbearable if there wouldn´t have been others to talk with. The visual changes are similar to those of Amphetamine, so relatively minor but a slight tunnel vision and all was a bit "blurred". Some Jaw tension was felt. But also a nice euphoria, also more comparable to amphetamine, than to any others.
    T:0:50 Peak must have been reached, the feeling of hot and sweaty went away, But the stimulation increased a bit, the talkativeness was nearly a bit annoying, the euphoria was also nice, it was like feeling totally satisfied with myself, the situation and the world. So it feels like Amphetamine, without all bad things like overstimulation, can´t sit still, heart racing etc.
    T:3:00 The effects slightly decreased and SWIM taken another line of 80 mg.
    T:3:30 Wush feeling a bit hot again, but that fades real quickly. SWIM realized he sweated a bit and had stains on the shirt, also the sweat smells somewhat chemical. So changing the shirt and washing the body was necessary.
    T4:45 Peak has reached again, the hot feeling went away, also the sweating was realy minimal now. But the stimulation is great, still not jittering and nervous like amphetamine, SWIm is just not tired anymore and couldn´t fall asleep even if he would try. There was also some sort of intoxicating feeling in the head, which is uncommon with amphetamine. The euphoria is like at T0:50, just satisfied with all, but nor excessive Euphoria or love feeling.
    T8:00 Mabye the effects start to decrease now.
    T10:00 Effects still slightly present.
    T12:00 Most effects are gone, but 5 mg Phenazepam where taken to finally produce sleep.


    SWIm would estimate the overall time from a single sniffed dosage is around 8 hours, where 3-h hours are peak.
    SWIM can´t agree with the overall reported high dosages of 100-800 mg, he would recommend everyone to test like 10-20 mg first, than go up to 50-60 mg. Just to find out how things are running for yourself.

    SWIm had no headaches or any other side effects, just the sweating always when redosing and coming up, really comfortable compared to amphetamine or methamphetamine.

    SWIM said the closest drug to Flephedrone (from psychological sight) is amphetamine. But the coming up with flephedrone is steady and comfortable, no heart racing like amphetamine, no extreme restlessness or being nervous, no headaches. Very nice euphoria, different than the one of amphetamine, but more related to it than to MDMA.
    Definitely would SWIM prefer Flephedrone when he had the choice between it and Amphetamin, Ephedrine or Methamphetamine. He also would like it more than MDMA, but that´s because SWIM doesn´t like that weird and unnatural feeling of "I love the world". So MDMA users might be disappointed from Flephedrone. Methamphetamine and Amphetamine users might dislike it cause of the lack of "aggressive" come up and the lower amount of stimulation (it doesn´t made SWIm restlessness, nervous or he had the urge to move).
    Interestingly it has a stronger intoxication effect in the head like the other substances (except MDMA), so SWIm found it not useful for work. More to chill with friends, play video Games and partying.

    Is it good for sex? Not realy, well at least not for Men, SWIM had problems to get his wiener hard and remain it hard. But the psychological desire for sex was there. Well that was also a known thing from Amphetamines. But at least it was possible to get it halfway hard and "finish", so it wasn´t the painful distress from amphetamine or meth. Where you want, but you just can´t get it hard, nor can finish in any way.

    SWIM would repeat Flephedrone more often, but is quite concerned about the side effects of halogenated Cathinones, Amphetamines and Phenethylamines. Once SWIM heard that Fluor - Carbon is the strongest connection in biochemistry, so maybe there won´t be Fluorid when Flephedrone gets decomposed in the body, but maybe other harmful Fluor-Carbon connections.
    On the opposite the 4th position in the phenylring seems to be the point where those things gets decomposed, so maybe Flephedrone leaves the body unchanged?

    Well that is all speculation, but SWIM hopes to help others finding some useful reports and thoughts about 4-FMC/Flephedrone and than making a wise decision if they wanna take it, what to expect, how much to take.
     
  18. Grobschnitt

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    *bumped*, to add a non-recreational, functional perspective from a neighbor with dysthymia/ADD (type: sluggish cognitive tempo).

    ~neighbor told me he started dosing orally at 10mgs, 3xdaily (30mgs total/day) for better functioning at work (@waking, @lunch and @afternoon break).

    historically, his best results have been with dextro-amphetamine, while the mixed enantiomers of adderall (levo-, that nasty little bugger) left him feeling dysphoric and dirty because of sns provocation... methylphenidate was the worst, leaving him with a fatigue that rivaled buproprion.

    however, despite adequate results with dexedrine, no drug is perfect, and those with motivation and a curiosity to seek the "better" will sail the seas in it's quest (this is the secret to happiness, no?... the quest for it?).

    ...it's been a couple of weeks now, and apparently results are very good for neighbor; focus, ability to "keep up" at work with one-on-one communication without falling behind in cognition, a reduction of dysthymia (and it's accompanying "tiredness"), no urge to tweak (recreational doses, particularly insufflation, might be a different, more dubious situation though) and an overall sense of wellbeing that, dare I say, might be better than dextro-amph!

    neighbor plans to alternate between flephedrone and dexedrine (2 weeks each) to try and avoid tolerance (which seems to be surprisingly non-problematic).

    ~in conclusion: used rationally (falsification being the key), non-recreationally and in small, careful doses, this drug might have wonderful therapeutic value...

    ...luckily for neighbor, large doses don't have a desired effect for most people, so maybe this drug (or perhaps the whole class?) will stay below the radar of the nanny-state... one can hope...