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Discussion in 'Methamphetamine' started by Gerard, Jul 26, 2004.

  1. Gerard

    Gerard Newbie

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    hey just wondering is pure meth and crystal meth the same thing, ie d-methamphetamine hcl. or is pure meth without the hcl. also can both be snorted aswell as smoked?
     
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    Kemikaru_Tenshu Platinum Member

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    Pure meth (ice or crystal)refers toa salt of either d-meth or dl-meth. Some will apply to term ice only to d-meth, while using a term like "prop-dope" for the later. It depends on where you are from. But no matter where you are, the freebase is not something you want to snort or smoke.





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    Good answer. 'Specially about the "prop"- where I used to live that was the shit when around. I've heard they use rocket fuel in the making of it.Propellant/Propellent means one that propels, specifically the fuel of a rocket.


    Oh, and you can burn cris and cr.
     
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    Oh, and you can snort them both as well.
     
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    ^^Although it may sound like another urban myth, itis actually true that they userocket fuelto make prop-dope. In some cases nitromethane (a component of rocket fuel) is used as a source of methylamine.


    None of the nitromethane makes it into the finished product of course, although this is another common myth about where prop-dope gets its kick (some people make the assumption that kick for a rocket=kick for a human I guess).


    Also the prop in "prop-dope" refers to the precursor chemical phenyl-2-propanone, which is the "base" from which the methamphetamine is made (as opposed to [pseudo]ephedrine in the case of ice or crystal or birch-dope). In this case the reaction involves creating a stereo center, and as a result "prop-dope" is an equimolar mixture of the d and l isomers of methamphetamine. This gives the dope its slightly different "flavor" which some prefer.





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