freebase / crack from cocaine

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  1. hh339

    hh339 Gold Member

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    How canyou turn coke into crack, anyone?


    I assume you startby converting it to the freebase, but then what?


    Peace!!
     
  2. Woodman

    Woodman A very strange person. Platinum Member & Advisor

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    Try looking up

    the bakingsoda method
     
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  3. Nicaine

    Nicaine Titanium Member

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    If cooking in a spoon, you can also use ammonia instead of baking soda/water. Just make sure of the following:



    (1) The ammonia is pure ammonia, not mixed with other cleaning fluids or household chemicals



    (2) The ammonia is fresh (or you'll be cooking 4 or 5 times to get all the good stuff)



    (3) Rinse the final product well with water, so you don't get ammonia poisoning.



    Basically here's the ammonia/spoon recipe: Put some cola in a spoon and squirt in enough ammonia to fill the spoon about 1/2 to 3/4. Stir the solution with the tip of a paper clip. Heat under the spoon with a lighter or candle until you see blobs of oil floating on the surface (or until the stuff starts boiling). Get a butter knife and poke at the blobs of oil, and push them toward the front of the spoon... they will harden onto the knife. Rinse what's on the knife, scrape it off, and do what you want with it ;-). Try cooking a second/third time if you wish, sometimes you get more.



    The benefit of this method is you don't get that nasty baking soda taste... the stuff should taste better and you should get more this way.
     
  4. P4nic

    P4nic Gold Member

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    Isn't that basing what you're talking about Nicaine ?


    general question: what's the difference between crack and basing ?


    Friends say it's the same but I can't believe it because from what I heard crack is very addictive and those peeps aren't addicts at all.
     
  5. Kemikaru_Tenshu

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    general question: what's the difference between crack and basing ?



    Not much. Some people will tell you that crack is made with baking soda while "base" is made with ammonia, but those people know nothing of chemistry. Base cocaine is base cocaine, no matter how you prepare it. If you clean it well enough no impurities will be left and you won't be able to tell the end product of either method apart. In fact if the end product is cleaned well enough a guy with a GC/MS will not be able to tell them apart.


    Someday I'm going to write an article explaining bases and saltsto everyone who will listen.





    ~KT
     
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    You're never old enough to learn something, so you have at least one person who will listen <img border="0" src= "smileys/smiley2.gif">
     
  7. 32785

    32785 Newbie

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    I'm always open to learning some chem KT, you've got my attention.
     
  8. rachamim18

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    The most simplest method for cocaine hcl.coversion to base[as I have found it]is:First:Measure out 1 part sodium carbonate per 3 parts hcl.,Next,add just enough lukewarm water as needed to dissolve the mixture.Becareful to heat just short of boiling.In significant amounts you can be assured of sucess by the hcl.converting to a yellowish oil within the water.Place your cooking vessel in an ice bath while at the same time sirring moderately with a hard wire piece[a piece of straight wire clothe hanger works great].as you stir the cocaine will coalesce on the wire.Finally,remove the converted base[the rock]and rinse under a very gentle stream of cold water[although you can in a pinch omit the rinse] and dry under a heat lamp.Your final yield of course depends on the initial quality of the hcl.[and how close you follow directions!].
     
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    general question: what's the difference between crack and basing ?



    Not much. Some people will tell you that crack is made with baking soda while "base" is made with ammonia, but those people know nothing of chemistry. Base cocaine is base cocaine, no matter how you prepare it. If you clean it well enough no impurities will be left and you won't be able to tell the end product of either method apart. In fact if the end product is cleaned well enough a guy with a GC/MS will not be able to tell them apart.


    Someday I'm going to write an article explaining bases and saltsto everyone who will listen.





    ~KT






    is base cocain or crack snortable or does it not work in that way
     
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  10. nikonikad

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    is a conversion possible if the HCL is not pure 20-50%
     
  11. sauvage

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    Woodman - nice link but what is starter fluid? If its available in Britain or France it sure aint called starter fluid.
     
  12. genaro

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    I suggest you to avoid the lye (NaOH) and bakingsoda (sodium bicarbonate) methods as these two are more complicated and more prone to leave you with toxic side products than the ammonia methos.
    The ammonia method is the very best one, very easy to do, no side products and also very fast.
    Ammonia can be bought at any hardware store as a household product (sold for cleaning windows if I remember well). Just ensure there's nothing else added in it (no perfumed/flavoured/scented ammonia)

    So you buy 1g of cocaine (better buy good quality coke so you'll get high quality freebase cocaine, much better for your lungs)

    Place 1g of the cocaine in the center of a table spoon
    Then fill the spoon with ammonia
    With a lighter, heat the botton of the spoon until you can see small bubbles appearing in the ammonia (ebullition) AND as soon as it's boiling you must IMMEDIATLY stop heating !
    Now, the cocaine HCl has turned into cocaine freebase (=crack). It's no longer a powder but has formed a small solid "rock" so it will be easly filtered through a piece of cotton wool (don't worry, the crack won't get lost into the small cotton fibres as it's not powderish unlike cocaine HCl)
    So take a piece of cotton wool which you press against one side of the spoon, then tilt the spoon so the ammonia runs through the cotton wool (the cotton wool is retaining the crack pieces in the spoon)
    So now you're left with crack piece(s) in the spoon (if any small crack pieces were caught in the cotton wool, just place them back in the spoon).
    Now the point is to get rid of the remaining ammonia: add hot tap water in the spoon and heat the bottom of the spoon with a lighter, as soon as you see that the water starts low-boiling (a few tiny bubbles appearing in the spoon) just immediatly stop heating. As previously use a piece of cotton wool to filter the water (retaing the crack in the spoon). Repeat this water wash procedure two or three more times.
    Then place the crack pieces on a small mirror (or you can even leave them in the spoon) and allow to dry at room temperature. You must wait that it's perfectly dry and do not smell ammonia anymore.

    To smoke it:

    a crack pipe (aka freebase pipe or meth pipe) works perfectly well. Looks like this: ====O
    But if you don't have a crack pipe on hand, here's an easy method to smoke crack:

    take a clean plastic bottle. Fill it with water to the 3/4. Then stick a plastic tube (use a pencil tube) into the side of the bottle near the top (meaning in the 1/4 of the bottle left with air). Use adhesive tape/scotch tape to seal it. The plastic tube SHOULD NOT go into the water, unlike a bong (the water is only here to reduce the volume of the bottle so there's is enough pressure to smoke through the tube).
    Now remove the lid of the bottle and replace it with a piece of alluminium foil.
    Using a toothpick (or such) make many tiny little holes into the aluminium foil.
    Now place a layer of cigarette ashes on top of the aluminium foil, the layer must be thick enough to cover the small holes so you cannot see them anymore. Put the crack pieces over the ashes and smoke it.
    The flame of the lighter is never really touching the crack pieces, you place the lighter above the crack and move it in a regular up and down motion and start inhaling slowly through the plastic tube. When the lighter is down the flame is SLIGHTLY touching (brushing past) the crack and then you instantly move it up (so let's say that's half a second down, 1 second up, half a second down, 1 second up and so on and so on until all have been vaporized and inhaled through the plastic tube).
    Keep the smoke in your lungs for 10 seconds and exhale.

    My advice: crack is bad (in many ways). I tried it a few times but quickly went away from it, I suggest you do the same.
    Be careful, addiction is at the corner and occurs quite fast.
     
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    1. 3/5,
      Brilliant post. Clear step by step guide with adequate relevant details.
      Mar 21, 2012
    2. 4/5,
      Very informative post, easy to read and understand, important harm-reduction advice at the end too.
      Nov 11, 2009
  13. genaro

    genaro Iridium Member

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    note that crack IS cocaine freebase, but let's say the stuff sold as crack in the street is bad quality cocaine HCl that has been converted into freebase cocaine (using the ammonia or bakingsoda method usually), while people tend to call "cocaine freebase" the cocaine HCl they do basify themselves starting from good quality cocaine HCl. But crack and cocaine freebase are the exact same thing (only difference: the street freebase sold as crack is bad quality, while the freebase you make yourself from good cocaine will be high quality crack)
     
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  14. psychedelaholic

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    I am getting 1/2g of really good coke soon and is toying with the idea of turning half of it into crack. I have never done crack before but has said that if he is going to do it he wants to make it himself and not have to buy it. Just want to make sure this is exactly right:

    Mix coke and baking soda in 2:1 ratio, add to 10ml water in a spoon and heat. Then filter crack off and wash.

    I have a few questions:
    Is a spoon the best thing to use?
    How much heat needs to be applied?
    Would a coffee filter be fine to use or would SWIM need proper filter paper?
    What's the best thing to wash the crack? I have pure acetone and 99% IPA, or is cold water just as good to use?
     
  15. Benga

    Benga Platinum Member & Advisor

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    Pet. ether based "starter fluid" is not available in France as far as i know...
    same applies for 100% toluene etc...most products found in hardware stores only vaguely list ingredients, the only full list is kept at the anti-poisoning center for their use. good luck.
    b
     
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