Health - Freeze Burn Has Occured, Want To Get The Low Down

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  1. st3v3

    st3v3 Newbie

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    Freeze Burn Has Occured, Want To Get The Low Down

    Hello. Somebody I know, SWIM, mildly burned there throat/vocal cords (maybe I am not sure what was damaged) recently. I was aware of it and well that's a long and complicated story what happend exactly I don't know the whole story myself. Anyway I haven't gone to the Docters yet, but I want to get the low down about it on what to expect because I told SWIM i'd asked around, I am a bit concerned. Anybody with similar cases / aftermath information on this subject please do respond, thank you.
     
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    How bad are SWIM's symptoms? Can he still speak alright? Does the throat hurt? If it is bad, I'd urge SWIM to go to a doctor and tell the true story (SWIM probably freeze burned himself by inhaling nitrous directly from a cracker/canister, right?)
     
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    They appear to be mild symptoms. I say there is a moderate burning sensation, and all though SWIM can talk normal it has been mentioned that there is just enough pain to bother and when speaking there sounds to be hoarseness of the voice.
     
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    So just pain. I would strongly suggest seeing a doctor though. Don't worry about legal consequences. They won't throw You into prison for using N2O (most likely).
     
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    Yes just mostly pain, that I hear now is slowly increasing. Any hard facts you can give, I know you are not the Doc but is SWIM f*ck*d you think (from what it sounds like)? I will have to make sure to make up a good story, somebody I know can help SWIM with that part.
     
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    Fer christs sake! SWiY has frost bite in the throat - get off the internet & go to the doctors/A & E. NOW!

    Frostbite if not treated can turn into gangrene - basically dead tissue. If this gets infected you could die - increase in pain is not a good sign!
     
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    Thanks for the concern Micklemouse I had figured as much about the irreversible detour damage of the monstrous frostbite. Luckily my Doc visit turned out to be throat irritation, no serious burns, breathing was normal, no swelling, medications / shots were given and as of now SWIM already feels better. No x ray required but for the sake of well being I will get an x ray anyway when SWIM see's there regular Doc (since this was at the ER). The story on how SWIM injured there throat is not by intentionally trying to inhale nitrous oxide thru a [email protected] or wh1p-1t, it probaby explains much! I didn't exactly know this until now but i'm sure had it been trying to intentionally inhale more serious damage would've been done. This was the work of a spray used in enclosed area that specifically reads use in a well ventilated area, contains only No2 and when inhaled I heard it burned like hell. Cold gas is powerful I guess, you can give somebody frostbite with a big @ss tank to the face I bet if they broke into your home, kind of hard to picture that exact occurance though. Anyway I am just glad I am not in bad condition and it was less worse (hopefully) the future sometimes will only tell. I appreciate the input from the both of you, thank you = )
     
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    You're welcome, but why didn't you say how the injury had occurred? Glad SWiY is ok - it really did sound like SWiY'd inhaled straight from a tank/whippit though, hence slightly panicked/exasperated post above! Jeez!
     
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    I didn't know until afterward, I was embarrassed to tell me I guess I could see why lol. The panick we had was from the bad side affects that had occured, then SWIM and I read on the internet about increase chance of vocal cord damage from inhaling cold gases like that and that's where most the pain was commin from the vocal cords, so it was quite an unpleasant thought to fear for SWIM due to irreversibility if damage had exceeded success in the situation.
     
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    St3v3, I know what You went through cuz I had something similar happened to him about two months ago. I used the whippet to fill the whip cream dispenser but didn't put it into a ballon. He did it straight from the dispenser. I guess he didn't wait long enough for the nitrous to cool down between realeasing the gas. SWIM noticed a few hours later he had trouble breathing and pain whenever he took a breath. Two days later he told his dad who happened to be an ER doctor. He checked SWIM out and found out that he had a acute bronchial injury from the nitrous and will heal very slowly over the next few months. I was lucky that it didn't do any permant damage and didn't injure his vocal cords. It's almost 2 months later and I am almost completely healed. SWIM still coughs up mucus but it's getting less and less as SWIM body repairs the injury.

    But those 2 months were the worst I have had in his life. Not only physically but mentally. I had super high anixiety and multiple panic attacks from being scared that he might die/be permanly injured from it. It got so bad he checked himself into a mental hostipal because he was unable to function with panic attacks everyday. I am never doing nitrous again because of what happend.

    So please if you ever plan to do nitrous, always use a ballon even if you already put the whippet in the whip cream dispenser.
     
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    Thanks Blast I appreciate your response. That sounds horrible and SWIM can relate even more with You now. There has been a new accident with SWIM because I am obviously very stupid! After realizing that it is possible to do NO2 thru certain types of canisters SWIM sprayed cooking spray oil contents into a huge trash bag, though the GAS was no longer cold and SWIM waited roughly 1-2 minutes before inhaling, it still irritated My throat for an unkown reason, possibly because the contents was not even NO2. So now I am back at sqaure 1 again after My throat healed already from the previous frost burn irritation!!!

    Now I have to take medication for it this time, and the doc says if the meds don't help I will have to seek out a specialist. SWIM now hopes there is no permanent damage and is scared about it, my breathing is ok for the most part but my throat hurts when SWIM inhales with a burning sensation at times. I will be getting anti anxietys drugs soon none the less . . . and when I asked, I said it will be My death before SWIM inhales any other type of contents ever again (even though the first time was a supposed accident I remain skeptical over that concept.) I am a complete dumb @ss and 50/50 deserves what has happend again. You would think 1 lesson is enough. But I still feel bad for SWIM of course.
     
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    shoot ive never heard of freeze burn in the throat, just had my hand freeze to the cracker during binges.

    smarts like hell,c ant imagine it in the throat
     
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    I know. Exactly why I had to look it up. I thought frostbite was was an external type of skin damage. I'm not surprised or anything that it can occur internally, as it makes sense for this type of situation, but damn . . . I guess you learn something each time you or somebody else you know does something entirely STUPID.
     
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    Err. I got a sore throat doing NO through a whip cream dispenser, is this normal? I used ONLY balloons (they were small ones, I quote). I did everything right to prevent injury.
     
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    Some people just seem to have sensitive throats, or throats that are not completely
    healed from previous events. Such people should give their throat a little break and
    stop fucking around with it!


    Balloons use to covered (maybe just on the inside) with some kind of dust, like talcum,
    from the manufacturing process, did You wash out the balloons before huffing?
     
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    my throat might be sensitive, because it was already healed. What had irritated my throat last time was propane / butane.

    No I did not wash the balloons, I just checked with SWIM. I don't know why.

    SWIM also just informed me that I didn't choose to wait after each hit, being that the balloons were small. Meaning SWIM sucked up one after another, without waiting for the compressed cool air to actually COOL. But i am not sure exactly how that cooling process works, or if there is even a wait, but I was only informed of this.

    You know I really advice everybody not to do this type of sht (NO). It's bull sht. There's too many risks. I am living proof now that NO is far from safe, and people need to stop saying it is one of the safest, only because they supply it in medical offices (they know what they are doing in medical offices, on the street is different). Besides on here you check with many people, many web sites and they only list few of the realities, making it sound more safer than it really is. If people knew and understood what more LIFE damaging shit NO can do to you, would you not touch it then at all? I believe so.

    Even though SWIM might be mentally challenged for fcking it up several times, I know SWIM better than one knows themselves. I am very smart. But there are other my out there that I know, that got messed up off this stuff at parties, the end results wasn't pretty.

    If SWIM makes it through this one, once again, I am stapling my mouth SHUT.
    I am going back to the doctors on this one. I am sure my docter will now know I am up to no good, to top it off.

    Eat right, work out--cardio each day at least an hour, and take natural supplements. All that will give you a natural high all day, for fck sake. And no irritated throats, or freezing, and lowering of the brain chemicals will take place, I vow.
     
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    can You elaborate on the unpretty end results and life damaging shit? I've never heard of any negative effects from n2o unless not taking b12 supplements or breathing.. sure You hurt their throat because they didn't wait for the gas to cool, but this is something simple to avoid. Were the unpretty results something other than throat injury?

    just curious :) thx
     
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    Sure, most the injuries were due to burns (face, and hands...I didn't know about the throat thing until recently SWIM informed me of my "accident"). But these my at parties got injurued because the incident took place when the my were already faded. Some of the injuries from this did not heal, however. So far, only one SWIM I actually know of hit there head after passing out on a stool (which had no arm rests), and didn't regain consciousness after that. No B12 complications occurred that were heard about on this behalf. Other symptoms within certain people was depression which had a long lasting effects which lead to many other thing's, like other "distress relievers".