Ghb Iv

Discussion in 'GHB' started by Lehendakari, Oct 29, 2006.

  1. Lehendakari

    Lehendakari Gold Member

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    Anyone tried??

    I guess it's dangerous with home-made ghb but has anyone tried to shoot it??

    I know it's possible but haven't read any report on the subject.
     
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    raven3davis R.I.P. Palladium Member R.I.P.

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    Dunno about that. That's a hell of a lot of material to inject .
     
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    London_Bloke Gold Member

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    At a glance, the only things I could find referenced it's IV use as pre-surgical sedation back in the 1960's.
     
  4. Lehendakari

    Lehendakari Gold Member

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    Yes, but most medical studies made on ghb use this method of administration to rats or humans.

    Apparently no one has used this method with recreational purposes. It is strange, cause you can see in this forum that swim and his crazy friends are always shooting up all kind of drugs. Maybe you can't shoot the salt form and you have to convert it into free base?
     
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    No You can't!
    The basic knowledge to know about GHB is: It is not a basic amine like speeds or crack. It is a salt of a hydroxyacid. so, in anyhow, if You converts it back using acid, which yeild the thermodynamically unstable gamma-hydroxybutyric acid, it will hastely cyclize itself and become gamma-buterolactone (GBL) [[Note: Read the 'Polyfuctional acid' section in Organic Chem textbooks for detailed info]]. Plus, GBL is irritating solvents to the membranes of our body. so, in conclusion, NO! dont IV it. the salt can be IV'ed if it is in proper concentration(but unpoppular due to side effects SWIM cant remember) but the converted form CAN'T if You dont want dead vein tissues.
     
  6. Psych0naut

    Psych0naut Platinum Member

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    Though GHB salts are very soluble, one would need to dilute the solution, so one would still be left with a rather large amount of liquid.
    Also, I think due to the strong respiration supressing qualities of GHB, one would need to inject it very, very very slowly to prevent respiratory supression.
     
  7. Lehendakari

    Lehendakari Gold Member

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    A solution of 500mg/ml would be fine? With 3-4 ml effects could be felt and risk would be low
     
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    Alfa Productive Insomniac Staff Member Administrator

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    No, it would not. This is a very bad idea, to put it mildly.
     
  9. MrG

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    I'd have to agree with that, *why* would You want to shoot it? By all accounts it is not the sort of high that would benefit from being iv'd anyway.

    Personally SWIM can't stand needles but he has noticed that there seem to be a small proportion of ppl who seem to want to shoot any old crap into their veins.

    Seriously fella, let this one go !
     
  10. Lehendakari

    Lehendakari Gold Member

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    I don't where you got the idea that I want to shoot it, but just to let you all know he never wanted, and he never will, he was just curius, as you can see in previus post, since he read reports of studies using this method it is weird that no one tried this method with recreational purposes that's all.
     
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    MrG Platinum Member & Advisor

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    No offense mate, but asking in a forum if anyone has any knowledge about shooting a substance usually means that You is interested in shooting it themselves.

    So that is where I, and probably everyone else who read your first post, got the idea.
     
  12. Psych0naut

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    You can't delete your posts
     
  13. Lehendakari

    Lehendakari Gold Member

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    Non taken. I amn't that crazy/stupid yet. He is always somehow curious about this substance doesn't know why. He is relatively newbie in drugs so needles are far far away from swim plans.

    Thanks for answering anyway.
     
  14. garbled

    garbled Newbie

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    Anyone who wants to be the first to shoot GHB or GBL will probably also get the distinction of being the last.
     
  15. Lehendakari

    Lehendakari Gold Member

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    This is from CERI.

    http://www.ceri.com/feature.htm

    and later on

    Many people have done, under medical conditions that doesn't apply to recreative users.
     
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    smoggy32 Newbie

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    Shooting anything is a way bad idea!!
     
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    Any research on shooting GBL?
     
  18. Psych0naut

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    GBL would cause immense vein irritation, very bad idea!
     
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    GHB can and is used safely by rec users IV, it's just not common. Reason being that the only real advantage one gets from iv is an instant onset of action instead of waiting. An intolerant user can tolerate easily 2g generally just falling asleep at worst. This should not be taken as carte blanche t go stupid you should still tread carefully as with using any drug IV.
     
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    I injected pharmaceutical grade GHB, the sodium salt. This was 8 years ago. Dose was unknown but less than a gram for sure as the GHB came with a plastic spoon to measure 1g.
    The only effect noted was the body becoming very warm almost instantly.
    He used to take GBL everyday at that time so GHB felt underwhelming most of the time.
     
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