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TEK - Guide To Making (a Sort Of) Laudanum, (A step by step pictorial)

Discussion in 'Opium & Poppy' started by 0utrider, Apr 5, 2008.

  1. 0utrider

    0utrider Palladium Member

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    i found this on the internet somewhere, posted the name of the creator but cant post the link since its got a forum on there (which would be against DF rules).. hope nobody else has posted it here, i really like it since its easy & with pictures..

     
  2. longdistancerunner

    longdistancerunner Newbie

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    Awesome Tek outriderx, my gerbil will try this as soon as he gets his next batch of poppies. For potency reasons he would probably never bring the solution above 80 degrees, but it seems like your product is of high quality nonetheless. What would be SWIyour usual dose of this and about how high is SWIyour tolerence? I've read that saffron was a popular/key ingredient in old school laudanums, have SWIY ever tried it? Sweet labels btw : P
     
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    0utrider Palladium Member

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    AW: Guide To Making (a Sort Of) Laudanum, (A step by step pictorial)

    Well, first is to say that this is not excactly SWIms manual, also not mine, same goes for any product, neither I nor somebody i met has actually produced (or even tried) to make this product, not even having/wanting the necessary chemicals/pods etc. i found it somewhere on the internet, but SWIM read that it got some pretty good reputation and results.

    about the recipe, well there is no standardized laudanum recipe, it varied from country to region, if not even from pharmacy to pharmacy and also depending on the usage, one can add pretty much whatever he feels like, SWIM would recommend (if at all) things that have actually some pharmacologic usage, like improving effects or chaning (f.e. relaxing) effects or just adding something for taste or smell, but actually both seems to be quite stupid, since one could - if necessary - add those later and its not wise to do so without completely know what one is doing and maybe even risking this great product, even those mentioned above (like gingko), swim would not add those, its just personal preference.. especially of the ma huang (=ephedrine) SWIM highly disapproves, since it changes the experience to the worse.
    so SWIY could add whatever he wants to, there is no "real" laudanum.
     
  4. samuraigecko

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    good work :)
     
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    SWIM followed this method in his hypothetical laboratory to the letter except for a few small adjustments of temperature. The result was of great theoretical quality when it was administered to his lab animals. SWIM is thinking that this method could improve with the use of a few other filtration techniques combined with this base technique itself. He will post again when he has performed these theoretical experiments for other SWIMMERS enjoyment.

    :)
     
  6. TritStyle

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    definitely going to swim this one. do any swiyous have a ballpark figure of the % in potency from fresh latex to the same pods dried and saved for say 3 months?
     
  7. Lemon3

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    THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL TUTORIAL. Needs way WAY way more views !!!

    Lemon3 added 5 Minutes and 41 Seconds later...

    Found more stuff on another site by Fogel:

     
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  8. Raiiana

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    Im impressed!! :)

    Raiiana added 2 Minutes and 12 Seconds later...

    Really Some people are so talented in chemicals & stuffs I'm such a Loser in that I can manage a whole company but cannot seem to know how to even prepare proper tea!! :)
     
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    I have used this very method on a smaller scale three times. it works very well. I didn't bother to flavor it because when done correctly two shots is a strong dosage even with a tolerance!
     
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    I am amazed anyone would have the poppies! Surely the seeds are totally banned...no?
     
  11. perro-salchicha614

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    Poppy seeds are only banned in a handful of countries.
     
  12. ladywolf2012

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    Oh my, the OP's posting is fabulously impressive. Fantastic clear photos and explanations--gee whiz, the stuff looks (almost) good enough to drink! This would make a terrific high school science project...just kidding, lol.

    I am off on my first hunt tomorrow for good pods in the Tucson area. I was already planning on this before I saw these recipes. Now I am even more deeply dedicated and committed to this sort of product.

    The only sad thing is that there are waiting periods throughout this process!

    A fine, fine job, OP!
     
  13. Beyondcold

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    Eggplant was so yesterday. My buddies can keep their homebrews. This is wonderful.

    I want to never close this page!
     
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  14. perro-salchicha614

    perro-salchicha614 Opium Goddess Titanium Member Donating Member

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    That looks delicious! :D

    One thing, though... when it's in solution, the morphine will be stable at temperatures a lot higher than 85 degrees Celsius. I have never noticed any loss of potency by allowing a poppy-based solution (whether from seeds or pods) to go above this temperature, and others have made the same observation. The process of making chandu (opium for smoking) used to involve boiling it repeatedly, and the product which was made using the boiling process contained more morphine by volume than that which was made without boiling.
     
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    I know this thread is old BUT, I wonder if in step#8, one could use a little bentonite clay to help the sediment settle out? Bentonite clay is used to settle out and clear home made wine when it turns out cloudy?
     
  16. Hardstepa

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    I don't believe that morphine does lose potency when boiled. I have had various forms of morphine over the years and when I have had to boil them if it was less potent then it wasn't enough to notice. I had morphine base, a white powder which I cooked up to inject just for cleanliness. I have also cooked MS contain after removing most of the wax and even though it was boiled several times it was still very potent. When in cooking pods I bring them to the boil but reduce fast so it's not actually boiling away too long and spend about 30-45 minutes depending how much is in it.