Harm Reduction Emergency!

Discussion in 'Amphetamine' started by drugbeat, Apr 9, 2006.

  1. drugbeat

    drugbeat Newbie

    Reputation Points:
    0
    Messages:
    2
    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2006
    Ok, here is the jist of my problem. I know this girl who is still in high school. She lives in another city and wants to start experimenting. She is my girlfriends cousin and by proxy, I am the most knoledgable person in drugs that she knows. The thing is that she is going to start doing things soon and does not care about the effects or consequences. Every time I try and tell her the cons of something she goes on the deffensive and tells me to stop being like her parrents. This brings me to my questions.

    1) How can I tell her about the pros and cons with out her seeing it as an attack.
    2) Is this just the normal teenager acting out phase?

    I know that when I was her age I researched everthing I took. I wanted to know the pros, the cons, the effects, the dangers. I just dont want her to put herself in a situation where she gets hurt or worse. Please people. you are the harm reduction sepcialists. How do I do this with out seeming like an over bearing authority figure?
     
  2. Pinkavvy

    Pinkavvy Platinum Member & Advisor

    Reputation Points:
    1,698
    Messages:
    2,187
    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2004
    from U.S.A.
    sounds like normal teenage angst ... introduce her to the fourm and erowid
     
  3. sands of time

    sands of time Gold Member

    Reputation Points:
    361
    Messages:
    1,267
    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2003
    If you ask me, it sounds like she is not mature enough for drugs. Many people start using drugs when they are at this point in they're life, and there is no way to stop them. Every substance must be respected, and the dangers must be clearly understood before one should attempt something new.

    I agree with pink, as these sites offer plenty of non biased info. Both sources should give her all the information that she will every need on any substance in question. Erowid's collection of experience reports provide personalized details regarding what to expect during a trip.

    Regurding your second question, that is a normal reaction for a certain age group. It's more representative of the maturity level though.
     
  4. Abrad

    Abrad R.I.P. Platinum Member & Advisor R.I.P.

    Reputation Points:
    1,903
    Messages:
    2,068
    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2005
    In my experience the vast majority of drug users do not want to listen to anyone who is in any way knowlegable about drugs and will tend to dismiss any harm reduction advice as bullshit. This seems to be regardless of age.
     
  5. IHrtHalucingens

    IHrtHalucingens Palladium Member

    Reputation Points:
    221
    Messages:
    955
    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2005
    31 y/o
    In My area kids know absolutely nothing about drugs besides there names and what they generally do. They know nothing of why these drugs do what they do, how they affect their bodies, or even where they come from.

    In schools they show you videos of the homeless junkies whose lives got ruined by the drug and just shove it down your throat that drugs are bad, without telling you why they are bad or that responsible use can be safe. So its normal for many kids to use drugs not for the pleasure that comes from the substance, but more just to rebel from what there parents and teachers have been telling them to do for their whole lives.

    Its all about education, they realized that just telling kids not to have sex wasnt working so now they are teaching kids how to use condoms and birth control, my highschool offered a years supply of free birth control for any student who came in and asked for it. They realized that its going to happen no matter what we might as well make sure that when it does happen its done safely.

    The same stance should be taken with drugs, they need to be educated on all the facts, including safe use (all the while still discouraging it of course) but i feel that kids would make alot better decisions about drugs if they were more informed from the beginning.
     
  6. EscapeDummy

    EscapeDummy Palladium Member

    Reputation Points:
    2,718
    Messages:
    1,753
    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2009
    from U.S.A.
    I would think it's just the 'drug culture' of her social circle. Swim, like you, wants to know EVERYTHING - side effects, positive effects, idiosyncratic responses, etc ( and he is still technically a teenager), but he knows people who will take any pill not even knowing what the actual drug is. "Green Teacup? Sounds bomb lets take it!"

    He just doesn't understand those people.
     
  7. Rin_Weh

    Rin_Weh Silver Member

    Reputation Points:
    222
    Messages:
    401
    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2009
    34 y/o from Canada
    Just be calm and tell her to be logical about it.
    No- tell her to grow up, and be logical.
    That way You will piss her off and maybe it'll stay in her head long enough that after the fit dissipates, she'll hear the logical part afterward and realize it's true.
    ?
    But say it in a smooth manner. I don't know why. Hah.
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Apr 30, 2017
  8. barbaby89

    barbaby89 Newbie

    Reputation Points:
    0
    Messages:
    29
    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2009
    -SWIM's sorry to hear that!
    -This kid has never heard of anyone just wanting to throw themselves in the scene without knowing ANYTHING THOUGH!?
    BUT SWIM HAD TO HIT HIS HEAD A COUPLE (HUNDRED) TIMES BEFORE HE WAS ABLE TO STRAIGHTEN UP that sounds like what will most likely happen to this girl!
    -Most girls (no offense intended) I know did not do drugs for very long after the initial experimentation phase for one reasons.
    -How old is this girl? I felt almost happy that he got into when he did (around 14) because it took him a long time to moderate but now hes finally doing great! (6 years later)