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Question - how long do synthetic cannabinoids stay in your system

Discussion in 'Drug testing Questions' started by baphel, Aug 14, 2010.

  1. baphel

    baphel

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    SWIM would like to know exactly how long detection periods for the synthetic cannabinoids win55, jwh-018, and jwh-073 last. And SWIM would also like to know the process used to detect these chemicals. Thank youuuuz guyz.
     
  2. sawith

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    Forever, or someone would believe who hasn't discovered google.
     
  3. Phenoxide

    Phenoxide Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Well, currently the only commercially marketed drug test for JWH-018 and JWH-073 is an LC/MS analysis offered by Redwood Toxicology. There are no commercially available immunoassay (e.g. 5-panel) type tests for these cannabinoids as yet, so the urinanalysis must be done by LC/MS or GC/MS in all cases, so is more expensive to perform. Redwood claim that the cut-off for detection is around 72 hours after last consumption, though it's not entirely clear how they've reached that figure. It may vary quite a bit around that value depending on personal metabolism, the amounts used and how frequently it is used. It's still too early days in its testing history to know the true sensitivity limits and person-to-person variability of the test they have developed. That's not to say their results are flawed; the test is built around detection of multiple drug metabolites and is therefore quite robust. I'd imagine these cannabinoids may persist for up to a week or more for a habitual heavy user.

    There is currently no commercial test at all for WIN-55,212-2. Under exceptional circumstances a thorough MS analysis of urine or blood could be performed in which WIN-55,212-2 could be identified. This would be very expensive, so would likely only be done under exceptional circumstances.

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  4. cartman

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    Great info but also quite scary to anyone currently in the military.. anyone else notice the GSA link for selling drug test kits to the DoD. Does anyone know if this lab is used by the military to test urinalysis samples? The military may not test every sample for RC's but could ask for it if they have probable cause just like steroids. Not trying to scare anyone, just trying to see if SWIM is understanding this information correctly.
     
  5. Terrapinzflyer

    Terrapinzflyer MDMA, RC & News Forums

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    should also point out we have an entire subforum on the topic of Drug testing HERE
     
  6. baphel

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    SWIM just told me that over 20 something people in a treatment facility tested hot for spice. They weren't sure if the lab test was sent to Redwood or not, but it was sent to a testing facility in which they use GC/MS.
    Is it possible that this independent testing facility found a way to test for more than just JWH-018, JWH-073, and/or WIN55?
    Wouldn't WIN55 be out of SWIM's system within 72 hrs also?
    And since SWIM lives in a state which JWH... and WIN55 is illegal, how could these people test hot for it if they can't get any?
     
  7. MikeOLogical

    MikeOLogical Silver Member

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    Illegal and unavailable are two very different things ;)

    Gas Chromatography will identify any substance which passes into urine unchanged, and will identify any substance for which the metabolites are known, so I would imagine that most RCs would be detectable in urine using Gas Chromatography...
     
  8. baphel

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    What are the metabolites for jwh-018, 73, and Win 55?
    And how long do each of the metabolites stay in one's system?
     
  9. bastardgas

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    redwood toxicology lab tests for akb-48..does anyone know if 5f-akb-48 would produce any of the same metabolites as akb-48??