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Other - How much Ritalin for recreational use?

Discussion in 'Concerta & Ritalin' started by jill, May 16, 2009.

  1. jill

    jill Newbie

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    How much ritalin is a good amount for recreational use?Kitty wants to know.
     
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    Ritalin is crap for its purposes... But it can be mildly beneficial recreationally... SWIM would advise you not go too high, he always felt Methylphenidate gave him an uncomfortable level of a norepinephrine high. SWIM just insufflated them one by one to a decent point, a benzodiazipine makes an excellent accompaniment.

    Realistically, start with maybe 2x your dose orally to be safe and controlled. Gauge that, and move on from there. SWIM tested Methylphenidate on many occasions before he felt he knew where he could be safe and sound.
     
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    Thanks Wespaw....Im thinking of switching to Adderal.I hear much better things from that.
     
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    It depends what your looking for :p Ritalin performed the worst as a positive stimulant for SWIM. They were alright to insufflate for parties and whatnot...

    If SWIM really has ADD, he should really choose whatever helps him :)

    If SWIY is looking for something perky, Adderall should fit that bill. 40mg felt like a decent "ecstacy" pill; it was nothing like MDMA, but it was a heavy amphetamine rush (SWIM was extremely outgoing, etc.).

    If SWIY is looking for a calmer amphetamine, he should consider vyvanse (lisdexamphetamine). SWIM really likes the effects of vyvanse compared to other amphetamines, its calmer, lasts a long time, and the comedown is smooth. SWIM notices much less of a 'rush' and more of a 'sweep'; When SWIM peaks at ~ T + 2-3hrs he just feels... great. Its not a mania, more of a general affection; music is still so amazing during his peak. (He slams on some Disturbed, Slipknot, Daft Punk :p).

    But, its no so great recreationally... SWIM found that upping his dosage only potentiated the effects (and the comedown :/ although still smooth); thus, if SWIM takes 3x dose (210mgs) when he wakes up, he is almost assuridly up till wee hours of the next morning. SWIM occasionally pops an extra 70mg (his dose) during the day... He still feels the desire to expand the high :p usually he doesn't bother though. He has found his normal dose is fine, and his days are a little happier and exciting. Anyway, SWIM relates recreational high to more of a norepinephrine stimulation, less feel good, more activity and desires.

    Yet, SWIM feels vyvanse is the easier and more pleasant amphetamine to use daily, Plus, it is a prodrug module (has an extra lysine molecule attatched) which means it will act as an extended release but cannot be insufflated or IV'd (it must go through your liver to become active... unless you cut off the lysine molecule :p). Doctors are also less scared of abuse, thus finding it easier to prescribe. There is no generic, though, one can expect to pay around 20+ US dollars for his dose.

    Anyway, you can tell SWIM likes vyvanse :p but to each his own, you may like your setup better. BTW, 70mg is a high dose... SWIM was prescribed 210 back in the day, and it stopped working :/ His neighbor, though, is prescribed some 20mg and she finds it helps her ADD significantly.
     
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    Thanks Wespaw,Im going for {perky}So next month at my doctors Im asking for Adderal.

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    My kitty is going for the {perky feel},so next month Im asking for Adderal.
    I do like the way 30mgs of Ritalin feels thow.
     
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    In all seriousness; If one has found a medication and dosage that works well, he should consider sticking with what works :p. I understand the desire to experiment, though. All in all, you have a solid point to expand from and fall-back to. Make sure she informs her doc about the current positive feeling associated with 30mg methylpheniate. Her doctor should use that information to judge a comparative adderall dose. Your cat should probably suggest a comparative methylpheniate : adderall dose, with a slight increase :p As I presume that is what she is after.

    Best of luck, happy hunting.
     
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    My cat wonders if 30 mlgs 3x daily would be to much?

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    kittys been on Adderal before but taken off quickly because kitty told her doc she had anxiety.Kitty didnt think the anxiety was that bad.Her doctor is a nice man and hope he will listen to her when she wants to go back on Adderal.What can kitty say to make him go for Adderal?kittys had mild anxiety with all the drugs Iv been on ...on and off medication.
     
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    SWIM wouldn't know whats a good dose for you, but the amount she mentioned iss kind of high :p Its not bad, per say, just a big allotment.

    She should tell the doctor that she doesn't feel right with ritalin; she should tell him the truth.